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ok i have worked out what has happened with the engine to a point. it dropped a injector nozzle. motor still runs but it sounds shocking.

i want to sell it as i have found the r34 skyline i want.. what is it worth without fixing the engine?

90 80 series sahara vx. silver and maroon in colour, body is great, interior is perfect 4.2 turbo diesel direct injection 5 speed., full front and rear a/c / climate control, full sahara interior, electric seat, front and rear heater, power windows,mirrors,central locking, electric sunroof, center consul fridge/ice maker, hid sahara headlights 6000k, duel batt with redarc isolator, full 3" exhaust from turbo back to the front of the rear diff, adjustable boost, duel fuel tanks,duel electric diff locks, marks adapters part time 4wd kit, winch bar with 8000 pound winch, clear rear taillights , rear tow bar , turbo timer, pyro and boost gauge, will be sold with cd player , front 6" splits in custom molded door pods, rear std only and none of the 3 tvs or amps.

suspension has just been done, it has a 4" lift using tough dog springs, rear medium, front heavy duty, 4 toughdog adjustable 6" lift shocks, x link on front diff, 2deextreme front drop arms, front and rear adjustable panhards, all brand new rubber bushes through out , 17 x 9 mickey thompson classic 2 rims with 35" mtz, all brand new


comes with tons of spares also..

any ideas on what i could get for it?

cheers mark

How many Ks has it got?

It prob worth less than your hopeing as it is a Turbo Deisel and as you know is not going to be a cheap fix for the average guy.

RUFF wrote:How many Ks has it got?

It prob worth less than your hopeing as it is a Turbo Deisel and as you know is not going to be a cheap fix for the average guy.

360k from memory..
yup i do understand that one, im willing to let it go at a reasonable price unfixed though. going to keep the gu for now.

cheers mark

I reckon its worth about 7000 with a stuffed engine, all the rest of the bolt on stuff in neither hjere nor there.

Ben

yeah i would agree.... i sold my 2 model 80 series with a blown crankshaft so prettty much a stuffed engine for $6000 and without all those extras you got

so i wouldnt except anythin less than $7k .... put it on ebay with a reserve i did ... best thing i did i had no replies with the trading post yet had e-mails daily on ebay.

yikes.... you guys have to be kidding me. although i did ask for your opinions that is just rediculas. it is a sahara... the engine still runs.i purchased a non turbo diesel 80 gxl for 7 and that is cheapish.

for that i would fix the engine then sell it for a decent price.

cheers mark

mud4b wrote:yikes.... you guys have to be kidding me. although i did ask for your opinions that is just rediculas. it is a sahara... the engine still runs.i purchased a non turbo diesel 80 gxl for 7 and that is cheapish.

for that i would fix the engine then sell it for a decent price.

cheers mark

90 model VX is that an import?

RUFF wrote:

mud4b wrote:yikes.... you guys have to be kidding me. although i did ask for your opinions that is just rediculas. it is a sahara... the engine still runs.i purchased a non turbo diesel 80 gxl for 7 and that is cheapish.

for that i would fix the engine then sell it for a decent price.

cheers mark

90 model VX is that an import?

no tony, well sort of, it was imported through toyota themselves, not through a car yard or private.

cheers mark

id say 10max if its clean.
unfortunatly even tho its a vx its an early one (not popular) and big k's means all the funky electricity stuff will start to fook up soon

even running ud be lucky to fetch 15

theres a petrol vx 91 model on carsales atm the guy said he would let go for under 10k and its only done 180 000
and its mint
for the same effort and money to fix yours you could throw a low k 1hdt into this one

someone with a workshop like yourself would have to be better off throwing a rebuild thru the motor and putting a price of 16ish on it with reco motor

ps for the right coin you may have a buyer pm me if you decide to go this way

ok just thought i would add this link as a few people really have no idea in my books, not getting angry about it but i did post this to get a realistic figure not a dreamer figure. you cannot compare a turbo diesel to a petrol even if it is the same vehicle.

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/ve ... ?id=104375

cheers mark

Rolled 1994 80 series petrol at pickles auctions a couple weeks back with air lockers, muds, kaymar rear step, 4.5 ltr 1FZ, manual hubs, GXL, winch bar and 10000 slow mount sold for $2800.

1990 model sahara blue and silver, all the shite sold locally in Emarald Victoria for $12000 and it was in good nick same engine as yours.

Ben

anything before the update model isnt comanding the coin anymore

red book also says a 97 multivalve auto sahara can be had for 25 with low k's
try adding 10 k to that.

im starting to find red book is so far out of touch with real prices.
another example is the missus 98 magna sports. (got kit n rims n tiptronic etc in good nic 200k's) i wouldnt pay 5 for it n nor would anyone else (it is a magna after all) but redbook say 7

mud4b wrote:ok just thought i would add this link as a few people really have no idea in my books, not getting angry about it but i did post this to get a realistic figure not a dreamer figure. you cannot compare a turbo diesel to a petrol even if it is the same vehicle.

http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/ve ... ?id=104375

cheers mark

I think others are being realistic Mark. The mods make it worth less on the open market. Its been butchered. Its only worth max 19K in prestine condition. It needs a 7K second hand motor at minimum if the motor is toast. And then they need to pay someone to fit it. Mods dont make vehicles necissarily worth more money. I would say 7-10K max. With or without mods. I beleive it would actually sell much easier if it were stock. Im looking for one at the moment and personally i wouldnt buy it with the mods it has even for 5K. If you can find someone who wants exactly what you have then its maybe worth $15K. It still possibly needs a Motor. Its got High Ks and its only a 90 model.

17yrs old with 360k and blown motor id say the other guys are on the mark.
Id say for the average bloke all the mods youve listed plus blown motor probably suggest its likely to have had a flogging in the bush.
If its as good as you say you would probably drop less coin fixing the motor properly and keep it.

yep fair enough to all.

i still have every stock suspension part including the sahara alloys, ill put it all back in and return it to stock. as for the engine it is not blown, it does run i just need to pull the injector nozzle out and replace the injectors.

yes if it did need another motor i do agree on the $7000 and up as i have searched bigtime.


cheers all for your opinions, ill fix it and sell it for a realistic price.

cheers mark

I agree with the $7k - $10k estimate. I killed the 4.5l motor in my 1993 GXL a while ago (170,000km's) and looked hard at the options. One was selling it with a dead motor and I reckon I would have only got $5k for it.

Emo wrote:I agree with the $7k - $10k estimate. I killed the 4.5l motor in my 1993 GXL a while ago (170,000km's) and looked hard at the options. One was selling it with a dead motor and I reckon I would have only got $5k for it.

mate it is a petrol.... they are worth stuff all in the first place.
just thinking about the replies here and my own thoughts, i paid a decent price for my first sahara, i know a few people with them also (some i have found for them) and this one i currently own was hard to find for a decent price, same as the old mans sahara... these are still fetching very good money, cheepest ive seen (non damaged and turbo diesel/ not bloody petrol) is 13,500 and i knew that was a great price.these are not your std td gxl's.


anyway cheers for that all, ill fix it.
cheers mark

mud4b wrote:yep fair enough to all.

i still have every stock suspension part including the sahara alloys, ill put it all back in and return it to stock. as for the engine it is not blown, it does run i just need to pull the injector nozzle out and replace the injectors.

yes if it did need another motor i do agree on the $7000 and up as i have searched bigtime.

Mark,

You may wish to edit your posts as you have quite a few on hear saying your engine is stuffed and prior to this incident it needed a lot or maintenance, pump rebuild, hub seals etc etc. Now you are saying it is just an injector ??

I bought a 91 Sahara Turbo Diesel not that long ago with 300 000 k on it, fresh engine and box, came with $7k worth of receipts in last 6mths for engine work, with all extras stock but totally unmodified paid $14 k all up and it was one owner.

From memory your dad's cost around that and his is Auto with under 200k on it so he got a great deal.

You would be much better off turning it back to stock and selling all your stuff off. I am sure people would be interested, I would be in your wheels and suspension if you went that way.

So why the change of plans ?? You were chassing a Sahara for so long ..

turbo42 wrote:
Mark,

You may wish to edit your posts as you have quite a few on hear saying your engine is stuffed and prior to this incident it needed a lot or maintenance, pump rebuild, hub seals etc etc. Now you are saying it is just an injector ??

I bought a 91 Sahara Turbo Diesel not that long ago with 300 000 k on it, fresh engine and box, came with $7k worth of receipts in last 6mths for engine work, with all extras stock but totally unmodified paid $14 k all up and it was one owner.

From memory your dad's cost around that and his is Auto with under 200k on it so he got a great deal.

You would be much better off turning it back to stock and selling all your stuff off. I am sure people would be interested, I would be in your wheels and suspension if you went that way.

So why the change of plans ?? You were chassing a Sahara for so long ..

hi bud.
correct about the first thing, that was all assuming what had gone wrong to get a idea before i pulled it apart.i do not consider the pump rebuild as a heap of maintenance, i actually fixed that by pulling off the shitty cold idle and replacing it with a blanking plate and seal. the injectors did need doing. hub seals were done.

that is a top price for your sahara with the engine done, im sure he was asking more, but if not that is a steal. my old man was $16,000 and it was cheap and is smick as.you yuorself have obviously been looking at them beofre you got yours and know there are not many turbo diesel saharas and most are up there in price.

as for the cruiser i will be turning it back to stock but still not sure if i want to fix the engine. change of plans is because ive had a change in life bigtime, i have also wanted a quick road car for a while, i have too many 4wds now and work on them everyday so i am sort of getting over it, i do not use them and if i do its for the beach, as none of my mates want to go 4wding anymore and i cant see me towing a buggy anytime soon. mostly it is because of life change though. will let you know about suspension and wheels when it happens bud.

cheers mark

So mark you obviously have some idea what you think this is worth. What is that?

Have you had much experiance with Diesels when they drop injector tips? I have seen engines need full reconditioning due to this.

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if its dropped an injector tip i would think the head is cactus ,the piston is cactus and you might get away with the cylinder
i am a diesel mech and have yet to see anyone just pull out the tip
sorry to burst your bubble

RUFF wrote:So mark you obviously have some idea what you think this is worth. What is that?

Have you had much experiance with Diesels when they drop injector tips? I have seen engines need full reconditioning due to this.

yeah tony.
mate as it sits i was thinking around 12 to 13. i just wanted other peoples opinions. if i dropped the suspension and tyres off around the 10 to 11.

i have a a little to do with turbo diesels yes but being direct injection you never know what the tip has done.

cheers mark

rampagingturtle wrote::
if its dropped an injector tip i would think the head is cactus ,the piston is cactus and you might get away with the cylinder
i am a diesel mech and have yet to see anyone just pull out the tip
sorry to burst your bubble

yeah bud, yet to pull the head and have a look, that is the next stage when i get some time. if worse comes to worse i could do a full reco here or if not too bad can replace the head/ piston if need be.

cheers mark