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drowned sierra

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:10 pm
by SIERRA BANDIT
alright i drowned my sierra and i have changed all my oils but i have a problem. it wont idle. i think the carby bowl has a bit of water in it. the thinhg is if i pull it apart i recon ill forget how to put it back together because there are so may bits and peices on it. so i thought id ask what is the best way to clean it out, ill pull it apart if i can get hold of a diagram of how it goes together

any help would be good

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:19 pm
by joshnz1
if u dont want to pull the carby apart,there are two 14mm bolts at the front of the carby pull them out and spray some carby cleaner in there to clean it out,those two 14 mmbolts go into the float bowl

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:25 pm
by want33s
Pour a litre of metho into your fuel tank and go for a drive. Metho absorbs water and is combustible. Water gets soaked up and burnt. No more problem.
A litre of metho every six months or so has never hurt any of my cars and I've never had a drama with water in my fuel.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:30 pm
by Sean
There is a product called fuel doctor which does much the same thing as metho except metho is only a temporary absorbent. Fuel doctor also cleans the whole fuel system of water and the bugs that breed in the water.

You can get it from supercrap auto for about $16.

Cheers,
Sean

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:37 pm
by Gwagensteve
Both Josh and Want 33's ideas are spot on.

No need to spend $$$ on fuel products - metho will work a treat, but make sure you have drained the bowl and changed the fuel filter.

Sierra fuel caps are notoriously leaky. If the water was deep enough, you'll get water in the tank from the cap.

This sounds crazy too, but check the condition of the hoses around the fuel hard lines (@ the fuel filter and the hard line to fuel pump) The fuel pump sucks fuel up from the tank, cracked hoses can lead to water getting pulled in when they're under water - the pressure sill push water in.

You might only have copped water in though the intake, but if it's in the tank, you will fight the problem for a long time unless you get it out or break it down with metho, even if you get the carb clean.


Steve.

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:23 pm
by SIERRA BANDIT
yeah i could hear the water being sucked in through the filler cap. ive had the tank out cleaned it out and replaced the fuel filter.


the main thing is that i got pics


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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:24 pm
by SIERRA BANDIT
sorry ill try to make the pic bigger

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 9:30 pm
by SIERRA BANDIT
here are a couple of links

i wont try again until i get a snorkel

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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 11:40 pm
by alien
dude those are awesome pics =) hahaha

I did the same in my zuk a few years back but was lucky enough that the stretch of water was only 10m.... so before the water rushed under the bonnet i was out - however my legs were soaked!

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:06 pm
by Pinball
SIERRA BANDIT wrote:yeah i could hear the water being sucked in through the filler cap. ive had the tank out cleaned it out and replaced the fuel filter.


the main thing is that i got pics


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bugger... looks like it used to be a "clean" rig to... ;)

Spock

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:46 pm
by SIERRA BANDIT
i ended up puling apart the carby and giving it a real good clean. now runs fine. thanks for all the tips :D

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 7:30 pm
by Gwagensteve
What was wrong with the hard ground on each side?

Steve.

ha ha

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:05 pm
by over land 4x4
you need to go fast like this

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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:25 pm
by Gwagensteve
That's a nicely taken photograph.... of something completely stupid.
It's your car to wreck :roll:

(Once again, flat, dry ground beside the hole)

Steve.

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:39 pm
by SIERRA BANDIT
Gwagensteve wrote:What was wrong with the hard ground on each side?

Steve.
not challenging enough :lol:

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:51 am
by GRPABT1
Gwagensteve wrote:That's a nicely taken photograph.... of something completely stupid.
It's your car to wreck :roll:

(Once again, flat, dry ground beside the hole)

Steve.
I'm seeing a pattern in your posts steve, you seem to think too logically lol. Are you Grimbos apprentice?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:06 am
by Pinball
GRPABT1 wrote:
Gwagensteve wrote:That's a nicely taken photograph.... of something completely stupid.
It's your car to wreck :roll:

(Once again, flat, dry ground beside the hole)

Steve.
I'm seeing a pattern in your posts steve, you seem to think too logically lol. Are you Grimbos apprentice?
No... it's quite sensible, if you're going to lay your rig down (as per avatar) then dry flat ground is much better than dirty deep mudhole....

However i see both points of view... sometimes more fun is more stupid... hell, why compete when it almost guarantees bigger maintenance/repair costs... coz it's FUN! :twisted:

Spock

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:32 am
by muppet_man67
Steve im not sure If I remember right but you drive that bog hole at the bottom of justice track only a month ago when there was firm dry ground next to it?

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:01 pm
by Gwagensteve
Yeah yeah, I know, but in my defence:

A) I knew I was going to get through
B) I did it slowly
C) it was hardly dry ground around it ;)
D) I didn't post photos of it on a public forum.

My car falls over regularly, and falling over when trying a technical line is not in any way the same as trying to drive across a dam that's 4 feet deep or hitting a bog hole in 2nd high. That's not cool INHO.

Steve

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:36 pm
by cj
Gwagensteve wrote:Yeah yeah, I know, but in my defence:

A) I knew I was going to get through
Unlike the one I had to pull you out of backwards :rofl: :D

Re: ha ha

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:38 pm
by Gwagensteve
over land 4x4 wrote:you need to go fast like this
That was my problem cj ;) not fast enough

Re: ha ha

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 7:59 pm
by cj
Gwagensteve wrote:
over land 4x4 wrote:you need to go fast like this
That was my problem cj ;) not fast enough
If you'd have gone in any faster we would still be there trying to pull you out ;)

Re: ha ha

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:05 pm
by over land 4x4
cj wrote:
Gwagensteve wrote:
over land 4x4 wrote:you need to go fast like this
That was my problem cj ;) not fast enough
If you'd have gone in any faster we would still be there trying to pull you out ;)
how fast is fast????

Re: ha ha

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:09 pm
by cj
over land 4x4 wrote:
cj wrote:
Gwagensteve wrote:
over land 4x4 wrote:you need to go fast like this
That was my problem cj ;) not fast enough
If you'd have gone in any faster we would still be there trying to pull you out ;)
how fast is fast????
Not fast but he was aiming for China on a funny angle :D

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:32 pm
by Gwagensteve
to put it into context, it was a very off camber entry to a bog hole with all sorts of nasty stumps, tree roots etc on the way in.

Basically, my "far too narrow" 1.0 sort of fell over on the way in. the chassis hit the tree roots and the RHF wheel went to full droop with the whole car leaning way over into the soup.

It was VERY hard to recover backwards. (Thanks CJ :oops:)

Greg ended up driving the same section fine in is WT with 8" rims - it was mostly a track width thing.

Hitting it faster was a joke - adding speed rarely results in more success.

Steve.

I think Cj might even have a photo. It looked pretty funny. Lead to a wheelbearing rebuild about 2 months later - whole hub was full of mud.