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Turbo timers
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:37 pm
by MAZZ
Hi all,what are the benefits of a turbo timer?
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:45 pm
by RB zook
they let the turbo have a chance to wind down, so when u turn the key
they turn the engine off like 2 min later.
Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:21 pm
by Ruggers
they allow the oil to keep on circulating though the turbo so when you yurnj it off you dont get a heat soak happenign to the oil in turbo which can burn it and destroy its lubricating propeties of worst allow it to cake up in the turbo eventulay blockin the turbos oil ine and destroying it. and also the engine to cool down a bit and look cool when oyu get out walk away with the car still running then turns off.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:04 am
by greg
Hi Guys,
A few quick queries regarding these turbo timers:
1. Can you buy aftermarket ones?
2. If so, how much are they?
3. Can they be switched off - so that you can shut the car down in a hurry?
I gather they connect somewhere into your ignition area?
Thanks
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:20 am
by spazbot
Yes you can buy aftermarket ones
bout $200 up
yes most allow you to either set 30 secs, 1 min 2 min 3 min 4 min 5 min, you adust the time depending on the type of driving you been doing.
there is a stop button on most to turn them off
you could get a bling one like this
http://www.importscene.com.au/prod533.htm
or a popular one for 4wds is
http://turbotech.com.au/turbotimer.htm (old man has this one is his 100 series works quiet well)
Afaik you need a efi engine with a computer for a turbo timer to work (although i may be very very wrong)
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:39 am
by antt
the second link that spazbot posted is the same one that a mate uses on his gq patrol. they are an easy plug-in installation and only take a couple of minutes to do
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 11:59 am
by spazbot
from doing a bit of a search greg would prolly be better off with a ricer one for his cappuccino engine, blitz and apex both mate wiring harness to plug straight into this engine and the timers about $159 and $36 for the harness
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 12:49 pm
by MissDrew
Most new trucks come with timers but they are not adjustable they just have a set time in them (approx 5 mins) Alot of truckies get adjustable ones put in and throw the unadjustable one out. I got one of these for free and wired it in to the hilux. It works great but like I said it is not adjustable but since I got it for free I love it. All I have on the dash for the timer is a red button that if you want to shut it down straight away you just press the button. Also if I want to dissconnect the timer I only have to undo 2 plugs and plug the 2 from the lux into one another, take about 30secs.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 1:03 pm
by greg
spazbot wrote:from doing a bit of a search greg would prolly be better off with a ricer one for his cappuccino engine, blitz and apex both mate wiring harness to plug straight into this engine and the timers about $159 and $36 for the harness
Thanks mate... I may have to look into it... The only issues would be unhappy neighbours as i walk off and leave the car popping and bubbling out that big super exhaust i run
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:12 pm
by Maddog
spazbot wrote:Afaik you need a efi engine with a computer for a turbo timer to work (although i may be very very wrong)
You are wrong.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:27 pm
by spazbot
thought so
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:09 pm
by bj on roids
i got a BES one for sale.
1,3,5 minutes. Hooks up to any car with a motor and ignition wires. Simple 3 wire job. Black button for easy shutdown.
Its in good condition.
$60
(comes with the little harness, just to plug it in)
Location Brisbane!
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:41 pm
by Ruggers
check out ebay i got mine from them there for 30 bucks and can be adjusted from 1 second to 10 min in sec intervals its also got a auto timer but i didnt wire that in. i had to wire mine to the ignition wires one for acc on for constant power and one for earth and one for when the ign is in the on postion
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:55 pm
by murcod
I'm pretty sure Jaycar sell a turbo timer kit for around $25. So if you're handy with a soldering iron.....
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:08 pm
by Slayer
got the arb one - 30 sec, 1,2,3,4,5 min... very handy. also have the negitive current running though the handbreak.. so the timer only works when the handbreak is pulled on.. not really my idea, but sugested to me by an engineer when i got my certificert for my lift and tires n stuff..
only problem is if u got an alarm with shock sensor like me and its hooked up to yr central locking u will find yrself standin around watin for the timer to tick down so u can arm the alarm and lock the car.. if i do it before the motor turns off the wobbles of the deisel as it winds down st the alarm off.. big farkup lol.. must look at ajusting sensitvity on alarm..
apart from that go the turbo timers.. not alot that can go wrong.. and got the off button if yr in a hurry.. also as mentioned before does the world of good to yr turbo, and engine.. and u look bling bling
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:06 pm
by bj42turbo
murcod wrote:I'm pretty sure Jaycar sell a turbo timer kit for around $25. So if you're handy with a soldering iron.....
Yeh I built this one seems to worked when bench testing but i'm unsure how to wire it.
Sorry to highjack this thread
but does any one know how to wire it up to a BJ42..........Dazz
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:32 pm
by murcod
Normally it's just a case of checking which contacts on the back of your ignition switch are shorted to the incoming +12V with the ignition in the "ON" position and then wiring the relay contacts of the turbo timer across them. Then you also need to find the +12V that is switched and hook that up to the turbo timer as a trigger for it to operate.
You may have more than one contact on the back of the ign switch that is switch to 12V in the "ON" postition, but you only need to wire the one that is used to keep the engine running (eg. power to the instruments may be on a separate contact but is not needed to keep the engine idling)- that's where a wiring diagram for your vehicle is handy.
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:08 pm
by murcod
One very important thing I forgot- if you've got electric thermofans make sure they will still operate with the engine operating on the timer!!!!
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 9:43 pm
by bogged
I got one, works well
15 sec, up to 10 mins I think.
Works with car alarm too, alarm is armed as soon as you hit the button, even with motor running.
<flame suit on>
check with your insurance co, one I got quote from said NO WAY with a turbo timer...
</flame suit on>
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:25 am
by oozuk
Slayer wrote:got the arb one - 30 sec, 1,2,3,4,5 min... very handy. also have the negitive current running though the handbreak.. so the timer only works when the handbreak is pulled on.. not really my idea, but sugested to me by an engineer when i got my certificert for my lift and tires n stuff..
only problem is if u got an alarm with shock sensor like me and its hooked up to yr central locking u will find yrself standin around watin for the timer to tick down so u can arm the alarm and lock the car.. if i do it before the motor turns off the wobbles of the deisel as it winds down st the alarm off.. big farkup lol.. must look at ajusting sensitvity on alarm..
apart from that go the turbo timers.. not alot that can go wrong.. and got the off button if yr in a hurry.. also as mentioned before does the world of good to yr turbo, and engine.. and u look bling bling
there's now been released some car alarm brand where it's got a turbo timer built into it with the car alarm, so can walk away and let it do it's thing
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:46 am
by robbie
apparantly they are illegal as you're not suppose to walk away from your car while its running.. "in case it jumps into gear"
dont quote me on that, its second hand information..
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:12 am
by murcod
Yes, they are illegal- your not supposed to walk off and leave your vehicle running as it makes it a target for theft etc.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:12 am
by bazzle
Correct , not legal to leave vehicle with engine running.
I use the ARB one and have on 3 different vehicles.
One thing I do is to modify the press off button to a positive switch.
This is so when on a gnarly off road bit the timer can be turned off in case I need to stop in a hurry and in gear.
Bazzle
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:39 am
by spazbot
the thing i have found with my old mans 1 in the 100, is if the timer is on the car still cant be driven you put it in gear or take off the break, or try to accell it just stalls out or shuts down. to be able to drive it again, you have to stop the timer and start the car properly or it wont go ne where
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:31 am
by bj on roids
spazbot wrote:the thing i have found with my old mans 1 in the 100, is if the timer is on the car still cant be driven you put it in gear or take off the break, or try to accell it just stalls out or shuts down. to be able to drive it again, you have to stop the timer and start the car properly or it wont go ne where
again not true!!
(at least fgor most manual setups.)
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:55 am
by spazbot
ok well this is with a auto, ive tried to drive it on the turbo timer and it dont work.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:55 am
by Slayer
spazbot wrote:the thing i have found with my old mans 1 in the 100, is if the timer is on the car still cant be driven you put it in gear or take off the break, or try to accell it just stalls out or shuts down. to be able to drive it again, you have to stop the timer and start the car properly or it wont go ne where
yeh with most u should still be able to drive the car, and i think by just pressing the minute/second button or wehatever u can keep resetting it and the car will run forever.. thats why i was told to put mine though the handbreak.. let it off and the car turns off.. sure u can drive with the handbreak on, but no crook is ganna know that.. so they are ganna let it off.. not that i ever expect it to get stolen in the 30 seconds between me gettin out walkin away and then hittin the alarm button over my shoudlder as it turns off.. tho spose u cant be to carfeull these days huh..
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:03 am
by greg
Changing the topic slightly...
Assuming now that i am going to be waiting with my car running and the key in the ignition (i.e. not using a turbo timer), how long is an accepted minimal amount of time for me to sit there with it running in order to let the turbo cool down appropriately?
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:06 am
by Leprecaun
Well, I am about to install a turbo timer(Thanks BJ) into mine, which is an Auto. In my case the Terrano, can not be put into gear without a foot on the brake pedal and the key in the on position, which removes the jumping into gear issue. I don't know if this applies to other auto 4wd, it does in mine and seems to be a std feature in many of the newer models, not just an import like mine which is a 94 model.
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:08 am
by robbie
greg, I used to own a 250-280hp celica with a nice turbo on it..
after a hard thrashing, 3 minutes was enough.. normal driving about 30 seconds would be enough..