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Is it possible to fit a Ga16 8v carb Vitara into a Nt 1l Serria?

Is the Vitara transfere case seprate or bolted onto the back of the gearbox?

Is there reduction low range gears aviable for the Virtara transferre case?

Will the NT diff ratios be suit to the Virtara 5 speed and transfere case?

What is the going price for a ga16 carb motor, gearbox and transfere case?

I know ill need to redo the engine and gearbox mounts and custom driveshafts.

Sorry for the ten billion questions,

Cheers in advance

Dirtykia

dirtykia wrote:Is it possible to fit a Ga16 8v carb Vitara into a Nt 1l Serria?

Yes. you will need to cut off the sierra engine mounts and move them forward.

Is the Vitara transfere case seprate or bolted onto the back of the gearbox?

The Vit runs a married transfer.

Is there reduction low range gears aviable for the Virtara transferre case?

Yes

Will the NT diff ratios be suit to the Virtara 5 speed and transfere case?

depends on your tyre size

What is the going price for a ga16 carb motor, gearbox and transfere case?

I wouldn't pay more that $1500

I know ill need to redo the engine and gearbox mounts and custom driveshafts.

Sorry for the ten billion questions,

Cheers in advance

Dirtykia

You will need to do alot more than mounts to get that combo in!!!

You'll need the following too....

a 2' bodylift to clear the motor
widen the tranny tunnel for the vitara gearbox
modify both front and rear tailshafts to suit the vitara transfer
cut new holes for the gear levers to come through the floor
cut out the crossmember that runs from chassis rail to chassis rail behind the seats, as your rear shaft will hit it
and heaps of little bits and peices that I couldn't be bothered typing right now.

cheers for that gutless

What year Vitara would i be looking for for the ga16 8v carb motor?

Is that the right model no. for the motor too?

What size tyres would you run with this setup and NT diffs? Ill be doing a 2 ich bosy and suspenion lift.

Cheers
Dirtykia

dirtykia wrote:cheers for that gutless

What year Vitara would i be looking for for the ga16 8v carb motor?

Is that the right model no. for the motor too?

What size tyres would you run with this setup and NT diffs? Ill be doing a 2 ich bosy and suspenion lift.

Cheers
Dirtykia

If you arekeeping you 1 litre diffs then I would say no bigger than 31" tyres, and as narrow as possible.

You want the G16A 8v. or 16v EFI. To be honest the only difference will be the wiring. They will both require the same mods to fit into a 1 litre.

kool.

What year Vitara would i be looking for for the g16a 8v carb motor?

Id rather stay with carb for ease of conversion

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Cheers people. all been very helpful

Last year of the 8V carby was about 1994.

All 4 door vits are EFI.

I would not suggest using the vitara transfer for the following reasons.

It has a direct high range, not 1.55:1 like your 1.0, even when fitted with crawler gears.
It has slip yokes front and rear so they drop their oil if a driveshaft is pulled.
the rear output is much higher than in a sierra so rear D/S angle will be a hassle
the rear output is centered, so it won't work properly with a sierra rear diff.

Just use an adapter plate like BenT's and a 1.3 gearbox.

The 16V efi vitara motor is much better than the carb version.
Another possible tyre would be a 7.50R16 -almost 32" but nice and narrow, will fit easily with a 2" BL.

Steve.

So the ideal setup would be, last as possible g16a 8v motor, 1.3l gearbox and transferre case with adapter plate?

Or use my 1l transfere case?
Can I get reduction gears for the 1l case?
Also I want a 5 speed to drop the revs at hwy speed.

Cheers
David

dirtykia wrote:So the ideal setup would be, last as possible g16a 8v motor, 1.3l gearbox and transferre case with adapter plate?

Or use my 1l transfere case?
Can I get reduction gears for the 1l case?
Also I want a 5 speed to drop the revs at hwy speed.

Cheers
David

use your 1 litre transfer. Also, the sierra 1.3 gearbox is already a 5sp. You cannot use your current box.

mate, contact brian at suzistore (www.suzistore.com.au) he has all the parts (adapters) that will allow you to utilise a 1.3l t/case... they can even do the whole conversion for you including supply of the engine.

my zuk is also living proof that you dont need a bodylift to fit the engine in... just lift the bonnet using the slack in the screws and "modify" the bonnet's crossmembers:

show here with weber 32/36


you can see a rust mark on the bonnet - thats where the stock 1.3l air cover mounted on the vit motor used to rub... it also wasnt allowing good air flow and had endless choke trouble - hence me opting for the weber (manual choke and a bigger carb).

why do u want a pos 8v carby motor, when u can get all the benefits of the efi??

bazooked wrote:why do u want a pos 8v carby motor, when u can get all the benefits of the efi??

To stop the CIA reading your mind. They use the efi computer chip.

Its just easyer. Same wiring, fuel pump, fuel lines. blar, blar....

can always convert the carby one to EFI down the track...

Zute wrote:

bazooked wrote:why do u want a pos 8v carby motor, when u can get all the benefits of the efi??

To stop the CIA reading your mind. They use the efi computer chip.

Its just easyer. Same wiring, fuel pump, fuel lines. blar, blar....

wats wrong with efi? plus all the benefits of the etra torque and power do it right the first time. i have been there and done that, i went from a 1.3 to a 1.6 8v pos then in my longy wb i just went for the mpfi straight of the bat. its the best mod you can do the first time. if i ever get another zook a mpfi is goin straight in, no questions asked.

X eleventy.

*rant on*

EfI cars just work. Carby cars tend to run like crap some or all of the time.

The pain of wiring and doing the fuel system on an efi car is nothing compared to the pain of having a poorly performing carby and being convinced you can fix it/throw something else on/ twaek this or that etcetcetc Just have a look at all the carby threads on here.

I have seen efi cars abused in all sorts of horrible ways - reverse polarity, crap fuel, computer full of water, stoner wiring, overheated, etcetcetc and they just get over it and run. If you have a FSM, you can jump the diag plug wire if anything does go wrong AND IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT IS.

I know very little about carbies and have no desire to learn. They're outmoded technology and never did a very good job in a 4WD in the first place.

*Rant off*

For the small amount of extra time and money involved, just go EFI. you'll never own a carby car again.

Steve.

Apart from agreeing with the advocates of EFI absolutely - if you are considering the mod, I assume its to improve power and driveability

Why stop with a halfway solution - EFI is reliable, more powerful, more economical, works at huge angles, etc etc.

Yes its a little more work, but worth every ounce of effort

don't muck around with a carb.

it took mee half a day to wire a jimny computer into a sierra loom as well as a vitara trans computer.

it's not hard, it's definatly not even close to rocket science

hey mugginsmoo, what an approx price for comptuers and injectors and stuff?
cheers stu.

ditto on the efi.

works great and heaps of power to boot up from the 1.3

Well Ive never had problems getting a standard carby to run on a standard engine that it was designed for.
But I do have a Mate who's Efi conversion has taken over a year and still not running. Hows it going James.
Ive rebuilt plenty of carbies (one in the Simpson) but I'd be scratching at rebuilding a computer chip. Plus PCs hate me.