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Standard / Stock Ride Height

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:14 pm
by alien
I think i've asked this before but couldnt find anything in a search =/

Anyways - anyone have a stock wide track SWB they can measure some points for me?

1) ground to bottom of headlight
2) ground to passengers door handle
3) ground to bottom of the top of the passenger's flares (F+R)
ie: the highest point where the tyre could touch but on the flare.

Be muchly appreciated if i can get this - need to confirm ride height with my engineer - best guess at this stage is that im 10" over stock... but only had 1 zuk to measure from with most likely very sagged leaves.

These measurement would also be a handy addition to the bible part on wheelbase =)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:51 am
by zookimal
I've got a standard zook as well. I'll run the measure over it.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:34 am
by cj
If you want to know the standard suspension height of any vehicle go to http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/pls/wwws ... ify_Search and type in the Make and model e.g. Suzuki and Sierra and set "Status" to All and click search. Here you will find the measurements from the centre of the hub to the top of the wheel arch opening.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:23 am
by alien
zookinmal - look forward to your results mate!

cj - thanks =) but it only seems to show newer models and bikes..

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:25 am
by cj
alien wrote:

cj - thanks =) but it only seems to show newer models and bikes..
How far back do you want to go? It has specs for 1.0 and 1.3 models.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:23 pm
by zookimal
My standard zook doesn't lean so the measurements are the same side to side.

Bottom of flare (R): 745mm
Bottom of flare (F): 730mm
MIDDLE of headlight: 760mm
Bottom of door handles: 960mm

Hope this helps. It's probably sagged from standard though.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:48 pm
by alien
dude you're a legend!

cj - can you post a direct link up? perhaps i was filling it out wrong?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:28 pm
by VR Rodeo

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:01 am
by alien
thanks dude - unfortunately it measures hub to flare, which means it wont include rubber, and doesnt say where the overall height is measured from and to...

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:26 am
by cj
alien wrote:thanks dude - unfortunately it measures hub to flare, which means it wont include rubber, and doesnt say where the overall height is measured from and to...
Come on then, hold my hand and I'll see if I can get you to understand a couple of things.

Yes, the measurements won't include rubber but I'm pretty sure that if you try you can figure out the the stock tyre is 'x' dia. and the new tyre is 'y' dia. and if you subtract 'x' from 'y' and divide by 2 you will know how much of the lift is from your rubber.

Then if you measure from the centre of the hub to the top of the wheel arch opening and subtract the stock figure gained from the site I have directed you to then you will have the answer of how much suspension and/or bodylift you have added. If you add this figure to the amount of lift from the tyres you will then know how much lift in total you have from a stock Sierra.

The overall height will be measured from the ground to the highest point of the vehicle :roll:

Pretty simple really but if either you or your Engineer can't figure that out then perhaps some more schooling may be in order.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:02 pm
by alien
of course - however theres still margin for error there thats all - getting real world measurements from someone who has a stock one is better i think... i will be checking both though =)

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:47 pm
by cj
alien wrote:of course - however theres still margin for error there thats all - getting real world measurements from someone who has a stock one is better i think... i will be checking both though =)
So I suppose that in the real world there is no margin for error. Don't forget that even if they have the same size on the sidewall the rim width, brand of tyre and tyre pressure all have a part to play in the actual O.D. and of course there are the springs that may have sagged or been replaced at some point with something other than genuine items which of course will need to be brand new to give an accurate figure as to the "original" height.

That site is all the Engineer needs to know how high a stock vehicle is as that is what was submitted for compliance in Australia. It was given to me by an Engineer and I was told that that is what I needed to work with.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:23 pm
by Gwagensteve
cj wrote:
alien wrote:of course - however theres still margin for error there thats all - getting real world measurements from someone who has a stock one is better i think... i will be checking both though =)
That site is all the Engineer needs to know how high a stock vehicle is as that is what was submitted for compliance in Australia. It was given to me by an Engineer and I was told that that is what I needed to work with.
Because the engineer doesn't want to deal with 15 years of "margin for error" or whatever springs have found their way into the car etcetcetc.

regardless of what your car measures, and engineer will only work of the data on the site. you can't use your car to cheat some lift etc.

Steve.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 5:47 pm
by zookimal
cj wrote: So I suppose that in the real world there is no margin for error.
There's not. I'm accurate to the atom. :roll:

I think we all agree the website has the important data on it. I just measured because the stocker was there.