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Having been for a run in a GU with Rockhoppers, they are stunning to crawl with and would be a great addition to MOST 4bs... but there are losses.

I would find it hard to lose normal low range which I find really useful for cruising around the mountains, or waitin for slower cars to catch up to you etc. So started thinking of options.

Another option is twin transfer cases, but they have their issues as well, with shorter drive shafts, and other holes in the floor, and have never been in one, but would seem more comp orientated than anything else.

Now the thread by Professor on the twin caliper mounts, and people saying think outside the square I are doing that...

Would it be possible to build a transfer case with High/Low/Rockhopper?

I realise space would be an issue, but how much more space, or compared to twin cases? Casting wouldnt be cheap, but see how popular Rockhoppers are with comp people, I reckon a triple would be popular with 100's of peasant wheelers..

I'll put my flame suit on now.

the advanced adaptors atlas 4 speed cases are similar to what you are thinking

http://eshop.advanceadapters.com/commer ... r-case.htm

professor wrote:the advanced adaptors atlas 4 speed cases are similar to what you are thinking

Thanks for the input...
Atlas, are they sort of generic, one fits all?

bogged wrote:

professor wrote:the advanced adaptors atlas 4 speed cases are similar to what you are thinking

Thanks for the input...
Atlas, are they sort of generic, one fits all?

I like the merit of the different range of the duals the atlat puts all of the range into one transfer I think without the lenght

There are a few adaptors c4 700 400 mosst yank stuff. they are clockable and avalable for left or right output

http://eshop.advanceadapters.com/commer ... apters.htm

not a bad setup

Chad

Stak also do a three speed - including an overdrive combo.

http://www.stak4x4.com/products_tcase.htm

I think by the time you have either a 4 speed atlas or 3 speed stak in your car though, duals will seem like a cake walk.

There aren't any adapters to a nissan case ( I assume you're thinking Nissan?) or your driveshaft flanges, you'll need new crossmembers, shifter locations etc.

I think that the available 3.5 or so transfer case gears for nissan cases would be pretty ideal?

Not having a go, but the engineering costs of a three speed case(that can't be sold in the US market) would be prohibitive I think.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:Not having a go, but the engineering costs of a three speed case(that can't be sold in the US market) would be prohibitive I think.

Steve.

No probs steve. thanks for the info.. As I said it was more of a thinking something different. Costs are usually a killer... :(

chad and i have been through this a 1000 times with my truck and im wanting the same thing and will end up doing this one day but ill post some links to what i have found mostly toyota stuff but the same i dear, the biggest problem i have found is the diffrence between american and australian stuff, now i have a spare gear box and transfer at home i can pull it apart and send a heap of photos to the us and they can tell me what they have to match it up


http://forum.ih8mud.com/60-series-wagon ... awler.html

http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/R ... rawler.htm

http://www.marlincrawler.com/htm/transf ... oy_box.htm

but for the nissan this is a opption

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/gearma ... ual-tc.htm

rob

75 cruser wrote:but for the nissan this is a opption

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/gearma ... ual-tc.htm

rob

Thanks Rob.
The issue with this is cost, I cant see it being any cheaper than $1800-2000 with just the "KIT" being $1000.. then shafts, reco t/fer case etc.

Oh well, it ws just a thought

bogged wrote:

75 cruser wrote:but for the nissan this is a opption

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/gearma ... ual-tc.htm

rob

Thanks Rob.
The issue with this is cost, I cant see it being any cheaper than $1800-2000 with just the "KIT" being $1000.. then shafts, reco t/fer case etc.

Oh well, it ws just a thought

Pretty sure bru21 did this and even doing the work himself it cost a pretty penny.

RoldIT wrote:

bogged wrote:

75 cruser wrote:but for the nissan this is a opption

http://www.marks4wd.com/products/gearma ... ual-tc.htm

rob

Thanks Rob.
The issue with this is cost, I cant see it being any cheaper than $1800-2000 with just the "KIT" being $1000.. then shafts, reco t/fer case etc.

Oh well, it ws just a thought

Pretty sure bru21 did this and even doing the work himself it cost a pretty penny.

An atlas or stak transfer will make $2000 seam cheap, + they dont have a handbrake on them, duals are a good way to go for what youve described.........

i had duals in the gq. next time I would go atlas - it will be cheaper/lighter/stronger? etc. atlas is very easy with a motor and box swap.

the dual transfer was sweet but cost about 4k all up.

cheers bru

bru21 wrote:the dual transfer was sweet but cost about 4k all up.

cheers bru

and you did all work yourself, so for a pleb to pay to have it done?? another grand?

I'll stick with it as it is i think

with the marks gears i had 3rd low was roughly about the same as 1st low with standard gears

had 35s and 4.1 diffs

you still have 5 gears to choose from ... use them all
i cruised around in low in 5th when on the flat betweet tracks quite often
if i needed more back to high range

i think theres plenty of option there to use already .... my opinion

Hoonz wrote:with the marks gears i had 3rd low was roughly about the same as 1st low with standard gears

had 35s and 4.1 diffs

you still have 5 gears to choose from ... use them all
i cruised around in low in 5th when on the flat betweet tracks quite often
if i needed more back to high range

i think theres plenty of option there to use already .... my opinion

Im pretty sure Bruce has an Auto.

RUFF wrote:Im pretty sure Bruce has an Auto.

Yup, 2004 GU 4.2 with auto out of a 4.5 petrol in it..

i have the 43% marks gears and find the only time their to low is on the beach but then i just use high range instead.They really transform a Patrol in the bush though ,makes it so much easier on the vehicle as well

i have the 83% gears and its low enough for me..
also diff gears help too.

its a bitch on the sand but. all i get to use is 4th and 5th

j-top paj wrote:i have the 83% gears and its low enough for me..
also diff gears help too.

its a bitch on the sand but. all i get to use is 4th and 5th

i was doin this ... but moved to high range 1st 2nd and 3rd it got up on the sand better

bogged wrote:

RUFF wrote:Im pretty sure Bruce has an Auto.

Yup, 2004 GU 4.2 with auto out of a 4.5 petrol in it..

never driven a patrol auto ... but i'm guessing my theroy would still be the same .... still got 4 forward gears to choose from high and low range
make use of them

Hoonz wrote:

j-top paj wrote:i have the 83% gears and its low enough for me..
also diff gears help too.

its a bitch on the sand but. all i get to use is 4th and 5th

i was doin this ... but moved to high range 1st 2nd and 3rd it got up on the sand better

i have tried both.
in high range i was using more fuel but in low range it comfortably sits on 40k in 5th and uses less fuel.

I contacted Advanced Adaptors about fitment for a nissan patrol. They could not help