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father in law just bought a zd30 gu has about 100k on the clock.
Had it for less then two weeks and started to blow a bit of white smoke.

he took it back to the mob that he boought it from and they have had it for about 4 weeks saying that it had blown a head gasket

So he has just got it back two days ago and it's done it again, Does this happen often on these motors, the blown head gasket that is.
I know they where hand grenadies but i thought they fixed it by "04"

they did a dodgy fix and just replaced the gasket .. the heads warped if it keeps blowing out

they said that they checked the head and it was fine Buggered if i know I'll find out a little more when he comes round tonight.

It's really bad i told him nissans where better then toyotas and all he has had is problems.

Second hand cars are always landmines. Nissan, Toyota, ZD30 fitted or not. :(

Sounds like they fixed it with chemiweld.

You have every legal right to have them fix the vehicle to a proper standard. Blown HG in a ZD30 is pretty rare - almost certainly a sign of other issues I would hazard.

Goodluck with getting the dealer to fix it. Make as much noise as humanly possible - its the only way to fix things with alot of these mobs.

Recently after a trip to perth ( approx 1500k),cracked the head causing Hydraulic Lock(repair bill of $2200 with me doing the work).Car had just ticked over 100,000k's.

Talked to the guy's at perth head exchange ,he informed me that he imports from japan 30 heads a month,most recent failure 2005 model.

These heads commonly crack,the amount of meat between injector hole,glowplug hole, valves is only 4-5mm.not much when high temps get involved.

Many posts on the problems with these motors,do a search.

cheers dkne5.

Wish I had coils wrote: It's really bad i told him nissans where better then toyotas and all he has had is problems.

Well you were wrong weren't you Nissan's are inferior to Toyota in many ways

Simo63 wrote:

Wish I had coils wrote: It's really bad i told him nissans where better then toyotas and all he has had is problems.

Well you were wrong weren't you Nissan's are inferior to Toyota in many ways

... and Toy-yodas are inferior than Nissans in many, many more ways.

Wish I had coils wrote:... but i thought they fixed it by "04"

no wasnt it the 01, no hang on I think its the 02, or maybe 09, hang on.. I think its the 2012 they fixed it...

RoldIT wrote:

Simo63 wrote:

Wish I had coils wrote: It's really bad i told him nissans where better then toyotas and all he has had is problems.

Well you were wrong weren't you Nissan's are inferior to Toyota in many ways

... and Toy-yodas are inferior than Nissans in many, many more ways.

Touche you poor unfortunate fool

bogged wrote:

Wish I had coils wrote:... but i thought they fixed it by "04"

no wasnt it the 01, no hang on I think its the 02, or maybe 09, hang on.. I think its the 2012 they fixed it...

They will "fix it" when they drop the shitter from the range becasue it can't meet Euro IV emissions

its the old story when you hear bad things about a certain motor it only a rumor until it happens to you then its a fact i was bitten by the good old toyota surf not once but twice should had taken the advice and left the car their stuff the oil burner there will always problems in end and they cost

Simo63 wrote:

bogged wrote:

Wish I had coils wrote:... but i thought they fixed it by "04"

no wasnt it the 01, no hang on I think its the 02, or maybe 09, hang on.. I think its the 2012 they fixed it...

They will "fix it" when they drop the shitter from the range becasue it can't meet Euro IV emissions

They did. Chucked some different pistons in it, a different head and common rail injection.

It is now EuroIV compliant. Also has more low down torque (still a 4 banger though).

And so far so good with the ZD30 CRD's. No confirmed cases of them melting yet - which is a bit different from the original ZD30 Di's which started melting less than 10,000km into their lives.

The temp is not riseing at all, The guy he bought it off told him it was the lightforce lights on the front that is the problem And said to take them off or it will void his warranty.
But it not the temp does not rise at all.

Just uses coollent like crazy and blows white smoke on start, somtimes and sometimes not, And is hard to start (ie Takes a bit of cranking, should start easier)

Yep,sounds just like mine was before it died.

Didn't use heaps of coolant probably a litre over 1500k,but when the head finally gave out used all of it.Never been overheated in the time I have had it 35000k's to 101000k's.


As I said previously head is now fixed.uses no coolant,runs heaps better and doesn't smoke like a train.

First I knew of mine failing was it struggled to turn over(still did but slower than normal)then bang hydraulic lock + wouldn't turn over at all.Numbers 3+4 were full of coolant,probably lucky I didn't bend a conrod.

15 hr job to remove head + put back on with new studs etc.Keep us posted on the repairs.

Yom wrote: They did. Chucked some different pistons in it, a different head and common rail injection.

It is now EuroIV compliant. Also has more low down torque (still a 4 banger though).

And so far so good with the ZD30 CRD's. No confirmed cases of them melting yet - which is a bit different from the original ZD30 Di's which started melting less than 10,000km into their lives.

That's interesting, I had heard they were dropping the Diesel in 2009. Must be a myth?

well it has emptied the coolent resevoir out once or twice since he has had it back.

It's not looking good.

Aparently it cost the car yard $1800 to fix this time Buy the sound of it he might be up for a bit more in the not to distant future


Merry christmas.

Simo63 wrote:
That's interesting, I had heard they were dropping the Diesel in 2009. Must be a myth?

With over 80% of patrol sales being diesel, yeh, someone's told you a porky.

Mind you I would not say no to a 4.8L on LPG....

mate your better off to fix it yourself, at least you know it will be fixed properly rather than the "1800" peso car yard rebuild in a can. They will do everything they can to get out of fixing it properly and tell you anything, seen it all before with a "rebuilt" 1Hz which was worse after the "rebuild"



cheers

Simo63 wrote:That's interesting, I had heard they were dropping the Diesel in 2009. Must be a myth?

I would expect the whole patrol range to go if that happened.. which wouldnt suprise me at all sadly

Ring them up.
Tell them its farked.
Get them to come and get it on a trailer.
When they say to drive it in get them to fax a letter to you saying they authorise it (on a letterhead) and any damage will be covered under warrantee.
Speak to the MTA.

Then hold the pecker flat and blow it up

Well the guy has been very good, As good as they get any way.

It goes back on the 2nd,

Had a thought that it may be the turbo Leaking the water, so the guy said he would have a look. So fingers crossed lets see how it goes when he gets it back this time.

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nice!!!!!!!!!!!

i've got a td42 and i had some but not all of the problems you have. i had white smoke on start up and a biatch to crank over. no leaking coolant though. the problems: split fuel line and poor earth. $50 later and so far, it's all good.

Wish I had coils wrote:nice!!!!!!!!!!!

Better than nice mate, it's a Toy yota and soooo much better than a Nissan donk

Simo63 wrote:

Wish I had coils wrote:nice!!!!!!!!!!!

Better than nice mate, it's a Toy yota and soooo much better than a Nissan donk

don't swear I like nissans, Just don't really like zd30's To many troubles