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Hey fellas just wondering if anyone knows anything about these winches. Also what price range?

Cheers GATOR

I had one on my old 75series Cruiser. I bought it second hand but it had never been used by the look of it. I used it quite a few times and it never let me down.

Toyota dealers used to sell them as an optional extra on there vehicles.

They haven't got the reputation that the Warnes have got but in my opinion they are not far off.

Price..... I wouldn't expect them to bring as much money as a Warne, but I would still pay up to $1000 for one in top nick.

Hi

they are Ok for the price, but no-where near as good as a Warn, both in terms of reliability and pulling power. Look out for brush plate melt downs - the brush plate is made of some kind of temp resistant plastic, and extended use can cause heat build up and this plate melts, effectively allowing the brushes to move around, eg., away from the armature. Effect - no go, full strip down and re-build. Not good if you are stuck somewhere nasty by yourself.

Also, side by side with a Warn (happened to me) they simply can't keep it up - either for speed of single line pull, or for confidence of extended use -I'm too scared to over heat the unit now - even with some internal air cooling supplied via the vehicle air tank!

Toyota fited them to light-weight vehicles only (eg., Hilux utes), and for this purpose (and for pose/looks I guess) they were OK.

Having seen the abuse Warns can take without fail, I would save up for the real thing:)

Reddo wrote:Hi

they are Ok for the price, but no-where near as good as a Warn, both in terms of reliability and pulling power. Look out for brush plate melt downs - the brush plate is made of some kind of temp resistant plastic, and extended use can cause heat build up and this plate melts, effectively allowing the brushes to move around, eg., away from the armature. Effect - no go, full strip down and re-build. Not good if you are stuck somewhere nasty by yourself.

Also, side by side with a Warn (happened to me) they simply can't keep it up - either for speed of single line pull, or for confidence of extended use -I'm too scared to over heat the unit now - even with some internal air cooling supplied via the vehicle air tank!

Toyota fited them to light-weight vehicles only (eg., Hilux utes), and for this purpose (and for pose/looks I guess) they were OK.

Having seen the abuse Warns can take without fail, I would save up for the real thing:)

That's the exact opposite of what I have heard from people who use them in the states.

I have a 16,500lb superwinch which I'm going to use on my truck, I'll let you know how it goes.

Sorry to hijack the thread but Junior80 when you get your mog be shaw to post some pics in the members section. Sounds like it will be a weapon...

There were Warn dealers in the US who have dumped Warn over Superwinch, if that says anything.


In 24V there is probably the biggest difference. Watn use 12V Solinoid packs where the Superwinch use true 24b Solinoid packs.

We have a few comning over, one 165000lb is for the Mog Tuff Truck, I have a 12500lb one top go on the front of my mog (mate has the same for his Mog) as well as Junior.

Time will tell, but we have had nothing but good reports of these winches.

This is an interesting test -
http://www.superwinch.com/NEW.html

Reddo wrote:
Toyota fited them to light-weight vehicles only (eg., Hilux utes), and for this purpose (and for pose/looks I guess) they were OK.

Having seen the abuse Warns can take without fail, I would save up for the real thing:)

I ahve seen em factory fit on troopies and 75 utes .. the troopy is a pretty big and weighty lump (especailly with the amount of stuff you can get into em)

...well I don't care what you'se say, the X9 on the Disco day's are numbered....soon as I can get a Warn at the right price, it's going to the tip:)

There's nothing like running around with guys that have Warns and seeing them perform side by side with other brands, and the X9's are second best in my humble opinion that is. Also, you really need to have a look inside and compare the quality of the engineering and the way they are set up. I simply don't think the armature plate construction on the X9 is good enough, and neither is the sealing arrangement.

Anyhow, that's the beauty of a democracy....you have a choice

Reddo wrote:
Anyhow, that's the beauty of a democracy....you have a choice

I'm confident I made a good one

i went through two x9's before i bought my hi mount and had heaps of problems but it was mainly due to the crappy solenoid design. i think if you have a decent solenoid set up it will be fine.