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motorbike question

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:47 pm
by cruiser60series
mate gave me a free XL250 the other day. Fair piece of crap but fun to put around the paddocks with.

I started it at his house and rode it to the back of the hilux. Cause im lazy and i had no respect for this bike i just layed it down in the tray as opposed to tieing it down upright.

Now the bugger wont start. It's definately getting fuel, not sure about the spark as the plug isn't 5/8 or 13/16 the only spark plug sockets i've got.

But since it worked before i lay it down for the long drive home im thinking it has to be related to that. My ignorance of petrol carby motors means i need help to start the thing.

any ideas?

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:53 pm
by nottie
Yep pull the plug When ya can and kick it over as it might be flooded. Aswell try undoing the drain screw in the bottom of the carb bowl to let the fuel run out with the fuel rooster off of coarse. Other then that did you by chance hit the choke so it is on? Once plug is out make shore its got spark.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 4:53 pm
by amtravic1
Its probably flooded. If you cant get the plug out turn the fuel off, hold the throttle wide open and kick heaps or tow behind a vehicle. Better if you can get the plug out and kick it over with no plug for a while to remove the excess fuel, then refit the plug, turn the fuel back on and it should start. You have not left the kill switch off have you?

Ian

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:11 pm
by cruiser60series
kill switches and all that don't work. Have to stall it to turn it off

It used to need about 30secs of choke on to keep going. But maybe i have flooded it.

I can start it with start ya bastard through the air filter but only for 2-3seconds.

I might just turn the fuel off and kick it for a while.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:57 pm
by sloshy
cruiser60series wrote: I can start it with start ya bastard through the air filter but only for 2-3seconds.
Well you just ruled out that it is flooded, sounds like its not getting fuel.

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 9:05 pm
by N*A*M
give it to me :)

check all the hoses are attached, nothing pinched

use fresh fuel in the tank

otherwise, take the carby out and clean it

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:19 am
by DAV029
float ,plugs,turn the key to on

Re: motorbike question

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:41 am
by V8Patrol
cruiser60series wrote:any ideas?
Give it back
:finger:

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:05 am
by tna racing
xl250 was either 19mm or 21mm

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:53 pm
by cruiser60series
worked it out

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put diesel in the tank when i got it :oops: grabbed the wrong jerry-can

runs fine now. Chain comes off heaps..it's extended all the way out too.

Re: motorbike question

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:53 pm
by cruiser60series
V8Patrol wrote:
cruiser60series wrote:any ideas?
Give it back
:finger:
the one condition of taking it is that i never bring it back

m

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:17 pm
by sloshy
Never knew honda made a diesel XL250 :roll: :D

Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:27 pm
by damo lux
Take a couple of links out of the chain.

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:32 am
by Patroler
Chain comes off heaps..it's extended all the way out too.
Just buy a new chain, only need a cheapy, sounds stretched, make sure you don't make it too tight, when the suspension is compressed (rear axle, swingarm pivot and front sprocket all lined up) there should still be a little slack - this will be the point where the chain is tightest. - may want to check sprockets aren't missing teeth also. Or if you're a tight ass just keep putting the chain back on :cool:

Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 4:57 pm
by RO8M
damo lux wrote:Take a couple of links out of the chain.
... did i have a post removed from here, or did it not get posted properly??

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 4:10 pm
by cruiser60series
It's not so much that I'm a tight arse, it's just that this xl isn't worth any money or money spent on it. The chain is so loose i just pop it back on and don't even need to turn the rear wheel to get it entirely on.

I would take a link out but I don't have a chain popping tool thing.

All this said the bike would actually be pretty reliable if i just bought a new chain. Might fork out. Should probably divert my effort to my 2 troublesome 4x4s first.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:27 am
by Patroler
that sounds like the go then, you can pick up non o ring 520 chain pretty cheap (o ring and x ring are dearer) make sure the sprocket teeth aren't missing and or teeth undercut - worn (or the new chain will flog out quick)
Also when you get the new chain ask the bike shop (or google or honda - it'll be in the owners manual) how many links you should have for that particular bike - save trial and error, they'll sell you one which you'll need to shorten, just count the links - including the joiner link, then to break it just grind the sides of the 2 pins on one of the outer links - then use a punch and tap out the pins (they'll stay joined to the outer plate you haven't ground (hence the need to grind two pins).
clear as mud!

ps there should be a joiner link on the chain that you have, you could use the above method to remove a link next to the joiner, doing this will remove 2 rollers, also make sure to put the c clip goes back on so that the direction of the chain is <---C---< not >---C--->