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Coily diff gears

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:27 pm
by 2CRAZY
Can the coily diff gears be interchanged with the WT or NT diff gears??
And what options are there for the Coily Gearing??

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:57 pm
by Gwagensteve
No and none.

The rear is interchangeable with any sierra. The front is unique to the coiler (it's high pinion)

You MIGHT be able to swap jimny gears into the front, but as you have 4.09 now and 99.9% of australian jimny's are 4.1, there's no point. THere is a very small chance you could come across a 4.3 jimny, but the hassle isn't worth it for such a small change in ratio.

Steve.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:42 pm
by mugginsmoo
Gwagensteve wrote:No and none.

The rear is interchangeable with any sierra. The front is unique to the coiler (it's high pinion)

You MIGHT be able to swap jimny gears into the front, but as you have 4.09 now and 99.9% of australian jimny's are 4.1, there's no point. THere is a very small chance you could come across a 4.3 jimny, but the hassle isn't worth it for such a small change in ratio.

Steve.
sorry Steve, what jimny has 4.3 gears?

Mitch

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:57 pm
by Gwagensteve
The mythical M13 auto, but only in suzuki's brochure? :oops:? I know you have looked, but the brochure says they're real... so it must be true

Steve.

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 8:59 pm
by mugginsmoo
acording to all my info the auto was ment to have a 3.9, and in south america they do (one chap had a 3.9 front and a 4.090 rear from new :shock: ).
and for some reason here in Oz thay have a 4.090

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 9:25 pm
by 2CRAZY
If the diff gears are out of the question!
How much is involved in putting a WT transfer case in the coily?

Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 10:18 pm
by Gwagensteve
do a search - this has been covered heaps before. It's not too hard if you have the transfer and some driveshaft parts.

If you go a WT transfer you will need gears too. if you are running a 31 or smaller you might be better with a late 1.0 transfer as the gear ing is 26% lower in low range (and 12% in high) than what you have now.- might be enough without the expense of gears.

Steve.

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:13 pm
by 2CRAZY
I have searched! but can not find what is involved in doing the swap!
If you can find it and post some links that would be very helpfull!
All I can find is where people with coily's have done the swap but that's it!

I was going to put gears in the WT transfer, either 4.9's or 5.14's for 31" or 32" tyres

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 5:13 pm
by mugginsmoo
do a google search.




http://www.dgtuning.com/

these guys do one for a jimny, not much difference


Mitch

coily

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:04 pm
by skez
i have a 98 coily are are the diff ratios the same in every coily model (4.09)?

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:14 pm
by skez
or are they 3.9

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:46 pm
by Gwagensteve
All 4.09.

Steve.

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:16 pm
by skez
thought they were 3.9 as i was going to put a nt centre in the rear of a coily as it is blown and i need to match the front ratio

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:46 pm
by skez
im pretty sure my 98 coily sierra has 3.9 gearing and it is stock

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:57 pm
by lay80n
skez wrote:im pretty sure my 98 coily sierra has 3.9 gearing and it is stock
Coily stock gearing was 4.09.

Layto....

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:58 pm
by Gwagensteve
thanks Lay80n, I was starting do doubt myself there.

Steve.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:01 pm
by lay80n
Looks like me and Steve are both having a shocker - just checked and it looks like they are 3.9:1 final drive ratio.
:oops: :oops:


Layto....

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:04 pm
by skez
yeh thought so 3.9

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:37 pm
by r0ck_m0nkey
I pulled the front diff out of mine today (96 coily).

Crown = 43
Pinion = 11

That equals 3.91

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:44 pm
by skez
i just wanna no if i can put a rear diff centre out of a 87 sierra 3.9 in the rear of a coily so it will match the stock front

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:44 pm
by Gwagensteve
Well yes... now :armsup: earlier, you would have had a ratio mismatch :oops:

Steve.

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:54 pm
by skez
yes earlier but not now should be right

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:10 pm
by jonno_racing
Love how this thread changed... at one stage they didnt fit.. then at another it would lol

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 5:21 pm
by Gwagensteve
Hang on, we're not talking about fit here, only ratio - The stock NT sierra rear is interchangeable with coiler, but the front is 100% unique to coiler and the only ratio is 3.9, so even though you can run 3.7, 3.9, 4.09, 4.3, 4.6, 5.12, (and mythically 5.38 and 5.83) in the rear you are still stuck with 3.9 in the front without significant other modifications.

Steve.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:25 pm
by joeblow
you can change the knuckles and put in a low pinion 1.3 sierra centre with what ever gearing you like. the coily centre is 1.3 diameter, the jimny centre is 1.0 litre diameter.

Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:35 pm
by a reef
coil sierra housing 2inch shorter than jimny i try before .now going back to standard jimny more stable on the road.yes u can put front vitara r/p 5.1
on wt sierra front centre fit 100 %

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:33 am
by Mudbits
We have some 5.12 Coily diff heads for sale if anyone is interested?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:35 am
by jonno_racing
Price?

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:44 am
by Gwagensteve
Mudbits wrote:We have some 5.12 Coily diff heads for sale if anyone is interested?
Are they from 660 cars?

Steve.

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:34 am
by Mudbits
NZ new Samurai.