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As Im spoa my front driveshaft top uni is binding on full travel so I was thinking of getting the hilux double carden joint I have in the shed fitted to the zuk shaft and thoughts on this?
At first clance it dosnt look like it has much more angle but it is dirty/greasy.
Also I think Mart is running zuk cvs on his shafts?? Is this a better/worse option? I think it would be a biatch to fix in the bush but not sure how strong they are?
Nik

don't think i would use Suzuki uni's as I'm breaking them in mine and want to go bigger

I already have a hilux rear drive shaft and have never had strenght issues with the front just the binding on full droop.
Nik

i ran a normal hilux size shaft on the front, ya have to mod that cross member or chop it out like i did, the bigger uni gives u more angle to play with and mine never bound up even when runnin coils.

Didnt even think of running the whole shaft (modded of course)
It would be just as much work!
Nik

No issues with front 1.3 cv as you have the reduction through the diff centre , so mine is 4.88 times stronger on the shaft than as an axle , done some pretty hard rock climbing with all 4 wheels spinning on rock and its not even notchy , but yeh , if you don,t carry a spare your buggered , but I do so we'll see how we go , if your handy with a welder takes a an hour to make one , Cheers Paul.

which ever way you go be sure to have it professionally balanced!!!

Do you have any pics mart? My little bro does all my welding so thats sorted I wasnt going to balance it other then lining it up in the lathe as its only the front Im doing.
Nik

Got a spare shaft today and set to it with the die grinder
On the rounded ears I took some off the outer edge as that comes into contact first and I wanted to leave as much meat as possible. On the inner part of the yokes I ground down to the grease nipple and then matched the rest to it. With the 2 halves of the shaft seperated ans side by side on the work bench at the end of the short end it has about half the shaft thickness again in angle if that makes sense.
When I test it I will take a spare just in case but hopefully it will allow 1" extra droop at the diff which should get me out of trouble.
Nik

1.3 sierra cv on front shaft , Cheers Paul.

A Question - can you fit a hilux shaft to the rear of a 1.0L 85 NT Ute?

After doing a search only its only works on a 1.3 wide track late models only?

Thanks Paul if my ground shaft is no good that looks like a good option.
Nik

NIK wrote:Thanks Paul if my ground shaft is no good that looks like a good option.
Nik

easier just to get a hilux shaft isnt it?

Yes and no, I have all the parts to build the cv type. Ihave adouble cardon but didnt seem to have anymore droop than stock zuk!! plus it would have to be lenghtend meaning Id have to buy tubing andbeing a zuker I dont like spending $$
Nik

Double cardan shafts dont really allow for extra traevl, their main use is to eliminate drive shaft vibes. By pointing the pinion at the shaft (therefore no opperating angle on the pinion uni), the 2 uni's in the DC joint cancel out each others phasing, helping tame drive line vibes.

Layto....

lay80n wrote:Double cardan shafts dont really allow for extra traevl, their main use is to eliminate drive shaft vibes. By pointing the pinion at the shaft (therefore no opperating angle on the pinion uni), the 2 uni's in the DC joint cancel out each others phasing, helping tame drive line vibes.

Layto....

exactly wat layto said

you want hilux single unis way more angle then zuk ones and hilux D/C ones

driveshafts are cheap as to make

i have used box tube,round tube and even old axles

Well that explaines it then! Thanks guys looks like Im looking for ahilux drivshaft then if mine dosnt hold up.
Nik

isnt that wat i said earlier??

Yep you did and in even simpler terms!
But I was thinking the double carden was for more travel but Ive been put straight on that.
Nik

redzook wrote:

lay80n wrote:Double cardan shafts dont really allow for extra traevl, their main use is to eliminate drive shaft vibes. By pointing the pinion at the shaft (therefore no opperating angle on the pinion uni), the 2 uni's in the DC joint cancel out each others phasing, helping tame drive line vibes.

Layto....

exactly wat layto said

you want hilux single unis way more angle then zuk ones and hilux D/C ones

driveshafts are cheap as to make

i have used box tube,round tube and even old axles

sorry for the hijack, but what if you were runnin a SWB with lux diffs(spoa with 2" leafs and only a small amount of wb extension)? with the centred pumpkin you cant exactly point the pinion at the case with no operating angle, would a cut down hilux shaft with hilux unis at each end have enough angle not to bind/cause vibrations? or would ya just make up a shaft with 2 cv's...?

Hey DEE , Firstly what type of driving are you going to be doing and what size tyre's are you going to run , have you done conversion or are you about to do conversion , going to be quite a lot of axle wrap with lux diffs and I presume bigger tyre's on spoa setup , this will add to your tailshaft problem , also is this to be your daily driver or basha , Cheers Paul.

2 cvs wont work, it will flop in the middle

MART wrote:Hey DEE , Firstly what type of driving are you going to be doing and what size tyre's are you going to run , have you done conversion or are you about to do conversion , going to be quite a lot of axle wrap with lux diffs and I presume bigger tyre's on spoa setup , this will add to your tailshaft problem , also is this to be your daily driver or basha , Cheers Paul.

sent you a PM mate.

bazooked wrote:2 cvs wont work, it will flop in the middle

I dont quite understand what you mean by flop. Do you mean at the splined/slip joint?
Could a d/c hilux with a CV joint work then?
Sorry if these are stupid questions but im a web wheeler...

Im in the same position as above. I have done the spoa lux diff conversion on my short wb zook and pointed the pinion at the t-case but was getting bind in my uni's when drivetrain was loaded. I have a track bar and have ground out the ears on the yoke for more clearance but this is not the ideal setup.

So what model/year hilux if best to get the driveshaft from.?
Which shaft front or rear?

Sorry for the hijack but its along the same subject.

Cheers sanger