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just wondering if anyone has done a rebuild on a 1.3lt i just got quoted 1600 for a complete rebuild and was wondering in others experience if thats about right or to expensive

i was told 1800

considering u can get a 4agze engine for about 1.3-1.4k, id say its expensive. but i uno

thanks mate looks like i could be getting it for an alrite price then

yeha but i prefer to keep with the suzuki stuff all over and it might get u the engine but then u have to pay for the box and for the installing of it and all the other stuff that comes with it and ur soon looking at over 2k

$1600 sounds pretty good to me. you need to check though what exactly 'complete rebuild' includes.

to give you some idea, i've almost finished rebuilding mine from the ground up ... i've replaced a fair bit more than most people would during a typical rebuild

work done by me:
- remove and strip engine
- stripped dizzy etc off head and gave to workshop with cam and valves still in (some very tight screws i though i'd let them strip rather than me...)
- stripped block until just pistons and crankshaft left

work done by workshop:
- cylinders bored, block shaved, head straightened, leak in head welded up, head trued up, polished journals, new bearings throughout, acid dip clean to short motor, machined flywheel
- fitted new pistons, new rings, new valves, new oil pump
- provided gasket set, new water pump, timing kit, clutch kit, engine mounts, other bits and bobs that i can't think of off the top of my head

work done by me:
- reassemble motor (returned to me in same state i gave it to them, pistons installed etc)
- full gasket kit, timing kit, new radiator, new hoses throughout (radiator / air / fuel), new clutch, EF alternator coming soon, new fan belts
- drop engine back in

Total cost thus far ... $2200? Workshop cost me $1700 for the work they did and supply of most of the new parts; additionals have been radiator ($270), small bits (hoses, thermostat, filters, oil, leads, dizzy cap, spark plugs etc) maybe $150.

not cheap. no doubt many on the forums could have done it much, much cheaper by doing more work themselves and replacing less parts (i have replaced pretty much everything that ain't part of the block, head or manifolds!)

i don't regret it as it has been valuable experience for me ... its the first engine i've ever pulled down, as so at least now i've got a chance of troubleshooting / fixing a problem in the bush ... but i won't be doing it again...... next time straight to the mechanic, hand over the VISA, and come back in a week's time

PS the $1600 you've been quoted is almost certainly for a short motor rebuild. my short motor rebuild probably cost around .... $1400? .... the other $800 has gone on the long motor, ie alternator, radiator, clutch, yadayada. if you buy a 4agze for $1200 say, you've still got to fit it up to the box ($300?) and at that point you've now invested $1500 in an engine in unknown condition, with nothing spent on the clutch, engine hoses, leads, radiator, possible rebuild etc. Do all that and you'll be up to $3k in a hurry.

that's the main reason i rebuilt my 1.3 - i'm happy with how it goes, and it's a known quantity. i've put a fair bit of cash into her but am now confident she'll do a good run without much more dosh.

comp sound system consiting of 1000watts of sub 1200watts of mid and 600wats of hig range speakers

Actually, don't bother with the rebuild ... just face all your subs and speakers to the back of the Zook and crank the volume

i was going to get a rebuilt engine for about $1200 - $1300
from a place in melburn it was only a 1.3 short but just had
to put all my bits back on it (dissy carby plugs leads)
so call up and see what you can get from around your area

ha ha yeah they are already facing backward helps with those hills just a pitty about the hearing but thanks for ur comments moph yeah im pretty sure its short not long but do u think its worth going long ? the motor has 190 000 on it atm and she is very very tyred after doing alot of kms since ive got it since i live 50km out of town

short is just the block

long is the block with all bits on it like the dizzy and stuff so you shouldnt
need a long

that's it ... most people just get the short motor rebuilt (block and head) and worry about the alternators, etc (long motor) when they die. i'm just fussy and did it all at once

A "Short" motor does not include the cylinder head.

By the time the bores are worn on a sierra, the valvegear will be worn too.- go for the long motor every time.

Steve.

thanx for the correction steve. mechanical noob here

depends on haw smart or fussy i rebuilt my motor from top to bottom except for machining . hand lapped the valves new new valve seats matched to each other lightened con-rods pistons matched to bore done all by me shop work bore supplied pistons rings valves head gasket cost $700.00 man hours to do to many would i do it again don't know performance gain yes but it is a work in progress