Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Random thought - if removing sway bars is illegal (is it?) and disconnects open the doors for litigation lawyers, is there any legislation about how stiff the sway bar must be? Can I get a really scrawny sway bar made, which does very little to limit articulation, and stay within the law?

If I have a swaybar connected, where does the law say how stiff it must be?

Scott

Scott,
I notice that Frank talks about haveing a disconnect setup for his Sawy bars but how exactly do they work???


Cheers
Paul

aelby sway bars will make you up a swaybar to whatever you want. they qouted me $250 a year ago to make one up for the front of my car which was shaped so that it folded upwards and clipped up against the front of the guards. never got it done though.

mike.

Guys if you do a search on the Articulator it should answer your questions.
Removing or disconnecting your front swaybar does help, allows full independent wheel travel (tyres stuff nicely up into the guards) worth about 2-3" in extra travel plus the added smoothness offroad.
I've removed my rear bar completely and have a dash operated (air controlled) front swaybar disconnect which works extremely well.

Hey Frank,

The articulator link did not work... Where can we buy the articlulators from?

Havent pursued shanes rear locker yet, funds running low....

Grant, the website has been taken offline coz I was sick of answering emails.
I don't think at this stage we will be making anymore unfortunately.

I want one of the Articulators so badly. I know you are sick of hearing about them, and I gather you are not making them anymore. Any chance you can give a little design advise so I can get one made myself?

Please, pretty please!

Thanks heaps

Jeff

Bitsamissin wrote:the website has been taken offline coz I was sick of answering emails.

shows there is a market for them

That's not good news at all Frank - the sway bar disconnect was my next mod before I blew the motor (and a preferable mod to an engine rebuild).

Why no more?.....Lack of interest?.......costs?.......too many stoopid questions?

I'm still keen to get one.

When I'm back on the road (feels like it will never happen) I wouldn't mind catching up and having a better look at the way you set up the system on the jabber.

Blair

Me want one too..... please.......

Ok I spoke to Barry and he is willing to do another run of 20 units.
We worked out a better way of mass producing them.
The base unit will have the ability to retrofit the pnuematic ram at a later date so as to have in cabin control like mine which works brilliantly.
He will get this on the go next week so they should be ready in 4-6 weeks.
He still has to find a way to mass produce the air ram which was a hybrid unit as we could not find an off the shelf piston with the required throw with the dimensions we required.

Make that 19 units available.

Ones mine.

I think its now 18 units

Now 17!!! I'm in for all the pennies it takes!

Thanks heaps! Keep us informed!

LJ

How much are we looking at for one Frank ?

$250 for the base unit.
We haven't worked out a price for the air operated set up as yet.

Cheers, Frank.

So can these be fitted to most IFS set ups?
Been trying to track down an articulator for a while now, and an in cab controlled unit would be PERFECT!
If they'll fit an Isuzu, I'll take one.

Dave

How much US$ were you guys charging bishi? That who exchange rate thing gets me confused.

I might be looking for one... it is just too convienient.

That rate sucks right now $250 AUD ~ $196 US. Any idea on shipping cost to US, Frank?

Alex Kogan wrote:That rate sucks right now $250 AUD ~ $196 US. Any idea on shipping cost to US, Frank?

So I guess I should wait untill your economy gets out of the crapper..... or I can wait for the aussie one to tank. Kidding.

Ok looks like that will be a summer toy when I am back at work.

Doug, its actually that our economy is doing great, which is why it will cost you more. You see, you get less aussie dollars for your US dollars, hence it costs you more. what you want is our economy to go INTO the crapper, so our dollar becomes worthless, and thus you get lots of them for your US dollars.....

LJ

But it ain't gunna happen so don't hold you breath ...

JMeager wrote:Doug, its actually that our economy is doing great, which is why it will cost you more. .....
LJ

This is not necessarily a good thing. For example, US is really big market for ARB. With exchange rate going up the locker which used to cost $550 US now should be $800 US. If ARB raises prices so high sales are going to go down substantially since people will look at other domestic options. Another option would be to bite the bullet and keep prices lower maybe raise a little bit but that means lower revenue and hence less available money. That can lead to reduction in new development, could be a reason behind set back in development front locker for Pajero. The worst option would be laying-off people from manufacturing department.
On the other hand US will benefit from say selling Warn winches with more units sold and/or larger margin of profit.

Frank,

When I spoke to you at the Wandin day you seemed a little surprised that the front sway bar was only 25mm thick on my shorty. (that doesn't sound too good does it)

Have just checked the measurement and it's definately 25mm.

Any inkling when we will start to see finished products (not push'n - away for 10 day break as of Friday night so won't be floating around)

my first swaybar was 26mm then i repplaced it with a 28mm(i think) bar off a diesel LWB which is good cause i am kinda sitting up in the clouds and appreciate the reduced body roll.

Certainly not going to replace it with a bigger one. I thought about removing it all together as body roll isn't too bad considering the heght but decided against it.

Blair, all the Gen 2 swaybar diameter listings I have start at 26mm thats why I was surprised.
It will be a while for the disconnect my t/case is the priority at the moment for the Challenge.
It will be a few months yet.

No Probs.

Got the bill from the mechanics for all the replacement parts and installation of the motor.

Gunna have to recover from that first anywho.