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how many kms are starting to become too many on a 4.2 TD GU

im looking for a tow car and have seen a 1998 GU with 240,000 kms on it. i know diesels handle kms alot better than petrols but im not sure how many till it starts to become a time bomb.

it also says that "engine Rebuilt by previous owner.
Has done approx. 20,000kms since rebuild."


also what kind of economy does the 4.2 TD get??

any advice would be appreciated!!

Evan

Hey mate, my old man is a diesel mechanic in the mines and he says after all his years of experience, that he has seen many of them make 500,000 with out any major difficulties.

TOYota's on the other hand, kept him extremely busy ! No crap! They just did not stand up to the abuse that the miners gave them. Constantly breaking.

As long as you run a good oil, regular service they are bullet proof and thats coming from a mechanic of 40 years experience.

My GU4.2TD gets around 1300k's from 130L of diesel give or take when your diving it properly. My mates on the other hand with 35''s struggles to get 1100 at the best of times (all to do with driving styles)

evanstaniland wrote:im looking for a tow car and have seen a 1998 GU with 240,000 kms on it.

just run in early GU's had issues with 5th gear, a search will find info on it.

i know diesels handle kms alot better than petrols but im not sure how many till it starts to become a time bomb.

it also says that "engine Rebuilt by previous owner.
Has done approx. 20,000kms since rebuild."

Rebuilt by previous owner... SO the bloke selling didnt rebuild it, and hes done less than 20,000klms on it since buying, why is he selling? found issues with it? or "owner going overseas"
I'd ask why it was rebuilt, ran out of oil? Drowned? theres no way it would have been worn out. There maybe other issues with it too.

also what kind of economy does the 4.2 TD get??

depending how driven anything from 12/100 driving like gramps up.

any advice would be appreciated!!

THey are increasing in value now, since hte grenade is only option. Mate was searching for MONTHS to find one worth buying

careful at auctions, plenty of flood damaged cars around at moment.. even the NSW ones are turning up.

was there a factory turbo 4.2 in 1998? or is it aftermarket?? something to consider. I have heard for some people putting turbo's on the early NA 4.2's and causing damage cause they didn't have the right piston compression or something... just check it out first.

I recently bought a 2001 4.2TD GU wagon with 210 000km on it. FULL Service history right down to when the tyres got rotated by Beaurepairs in the original booklet. Immaculate. I've had no concerns and dont anticipate any either. so 240 should be OK if well serviced.

benhl wrote:I recently bought a 2001 4.2TD GU wagon with 210 000km on it. FULL Service history right down to when the tyres got rotated by Beaurepairs in the original booklet. Immaculate. I've had no concerns and dont anticipate any either. so 240 should be OK if well serviced.

What price did you pay, mate just bought one exact same, with 120k klms.. just interested as I think he paid too much, but prices have gone up on 4.2s recently

My GU4.2TD gets around 1300k's from 130L of diesel give or take when your diving it properly. My mates on the other hand with 35''s struggles to get 1100 at the best of times (all to do with driving styles)

Holy crap I have an 06/07 4.2TDI with 8000klms on it and 3" exhaust and only get around 900klm (around 12-13L/100klm) at the best, driving like grandma, am I doing something wrong?
Isn't 1300klm out of 130L make 10L/100klm or am I calculating that incorrectly

red80 wrote:

My GU4.2TD gets around 1300k's from 130L of diesel give or take when your diving it properly. My mates on the other hand with 35''s struggles to get 1100 at the best of times (all to do with driving styles)

Holy crap I have an 06/07 4.2TDI with 8000klms on it and 3" exhaust and only get around 900klm (around 12-13L/100klm) at the best, driving like grandma, am I doing something wrong?
Isn't 1300klm out of 130L make 10L/100klm or am I calculating that incorrectly

No you're not doing anything wrong, that is the going rate.

People's economy figures usually improve once posted on the internet ...

... come back in a week, your fuel economy should be better by then.

RoldIT wrote:

red80 wrote:

My GU4.2TD gets around 1300k's from 130L of diesel give or take when your diving it properly. My mates on the other hand with 35''s struggles to get 1100 at the best of times (all to do with driving styles)

Holy crap I have an 06/07 4.2TDI with 8000klms on it and 3" exhaust and only get around 900klm (around 12-13L/100klm) at the best, driving like grandma, am I doing something wrong?
Isn't 1300klm out of 130L make 10L/100klm or am I calculating that incorrectly

No you're not doing anything wrong, that is the going rate.

People's economy figures usually improve once posted on the internet ...

... come back in a week, your fuel economy should be better by then.

I kno wthat my brothers 06 4.2 TD was getting about 12's but now it is run in it is getting high 10's to the 100.. If he sits on 100 instead of 110 is gets mid to low 10's per 100. Thats with an Arb bar, scrub bars, safari snorkle and a full beaudesert 3 inch zorst.

No you're not doing anything wrong, that is the going rate.

People's economy figures usually improve once posted on the internet ...

... come back in a week, your fuel economy should be better by then.

WTF ?

If your going to be smart arsed atleast try and be smart and do some research !

I work with 5 blokes (all mechanics) with the same engine. In a ute that is light, cruising on 100 - 110kmh that is quite achievable, high 10 to 11 L per 100 is extremely normal if your not thrashing the guts out of it to get it up to speed quickly. Mind you where we are it is nothing but long and flat roads, which help considerably.

If i put on the 35'' muddies and thrash around i get bad figures too. But with small road tyres, carrying no weight and drivng easy ......... ah dont worry about it!

I can see your lack of mechanical knowledge is clouding your judgement!

Yeah, maybe you're right, I should do some more research ... obviously, I've got no farken idea ...

I'm struggling to get below 14L/100km out of my wagon driven very gently. This is all stop start short trips though and haven't got it on the highway yet. Does that sound normal for that sort of running?

Nev wrote:I'm struggling to get below 14L/100km out of my wagon driven very gently. This is all stop start short trips though and haven't got it on the highway yet. Does that sound normal for that sort of running?

Yep, but apparently I've got no idea.

No opinions just the facts

My GU when standard apart from 285/75/16's i got 10/11l per 100 coming back from queensland to sydney sitting on 100/110km/h no faster.
Now on 315/75/16's with 4.6:1 diffs, 6inch lift,rear bar, winch and a few other bits i got roughly 14/15l per 100km going to canberra sitting on 110/120km/h pushing it a bit.

RoldIT wrote:Yeah, maybe you're right, I should do some more research ... obviously, I've got no farken idea ...

yea ya noob...

red80 wrote:No opinions just the facts

yea, Im sure that Nissan would tell you if it was 20/100.



whats with all the comedians in here lately? school holidays or something?

I don't know what the big deal is 13L/100 is pretty good for a 2Tonne+ car with a large engine and turbo. I've had 4cyl turbo cars that have used more than that.

If it gets better after 20,000klms or so then all the better , can't wait. If it gets to 10L/100, you f*%ken beauty

Anyone seen one of those fuel consumption stickers for an '07 4.8 auto GU wagon?

Dealers don't seem to display them for the GU 4.8, yet I had one on an '07 diesel Navara.
The website is useless, nothing updated since 2003.

Just curious to their results, as I'm getting a constant 17-18l / 100klm's.

Davidh wrote:Just curious to their results, as I'm getting a constant 17-18l / 100klm's.

Check your accelerator pedal, I think you may have a lump of concrete stuck to it ...

Davidh wrote:Anyone seen one of those fuel consumption stickers for an '07 4.8 auto GU wagon?

Dealers don't seem to display them for the GU 4.8, yet I had one on an '07 diesel Navara.
The website is useless, nothing updated since 2003.

Just curious to their results, as I'm getting a constant 17-18l / 100klm's.

the 4.8's are fuel guzzlers we always hav customers complaining about their poor fuel consumption, the only reason we can tell them is highish diff ratios large motor needs lotsa fuel, dusnt matter how many times you reset the compter... recomend stay away from them unless ur winning lottery sumtime soon

Check on Used patrols, (4.2 Diesel) theres a fixed metal clamped protective cap on fuel pump, some remove them and boost them, fuel pump and timming issues and poor reliability occur.

Get a NRMA inspection and ask inspector to specifically look if its been removed, if so look at another one.

You dont want or need problems of boosting, as they are pretty good diesel standard.

get a 3" exhaust run 12 pound it will put a smile on your face, still get 14/100 driving like an idiot

GQ 89 SWB 4.2 Litre petrol auto (newly built box)....Consistently get 20L/100Km round town....the very best on a trip was 14.5L/100Km......thats with 260,000 on the clock and a very soft right foot.

ev,

if its the car im thinking of it sounds pretty dodge. Make sure u test drive it / organise your own report for it b4 u bid on it mate.

watto

dont know about the turbo models, but i consistently get 11.1l/100 out of my gq ute, and that was when the fuel was wound up. waiting on a week of consistant driving to give a result now its been tuned back to the correct afr's. i dont think it will be much different though.
i get 13/100 with 35" coopers on