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Does anyone know where i can get 16inch beadlocks from.

thanks
Brad.

Chris aka roctoy from here makes them, he has a new flash design too, they are strong as hell, look wicked and very decent price.

cheers mark

does he have a site or something so i can see em, i'm trying to source some but in 15's

i think its www.roctoydesignfab.com.au


just search roctoy, he makes them in 15" also and 17"

cheers mark

his mobile 0424 671 940

rob

i just sent him a sms to get onto this thread.

here is his myspace, the old style is on there on the right.

cheers mark

pm sent

here are the one's i've been doing the last couple of years

does the rim need to be cut or is it weld in??

mule75 wrote:does the rim need to be cut or is it weld in??

Weld on.

the inner ring sits in the lip of the wheel and you basically fill the gap with weld.

dose it afect anything when u want to put new tyres on? and roughly how much for 4 beadlocks on 15" rims it will b on a cruiser wish simex extream trecher 2s and the cruiser is silver!

tuff4runner wrote:dose it afect anything when u want to put new tyres on? and roughly how much for 4 beadlocks on 15" rims it will b on a cruiser wish simex extream trecher 2s and the cruiser is silver!

it makes it easier to fit new tyres, or do you mean if you want to make the rims back to street legal?, if so you would need to grind the inner ring off.

these come unpainted also.

Kruiser Dude wrote:Does anyone know where i can get 16inch beadlocks from.

thanks
Brad.

Try ARB Southern, Brad. They do them at great prices and perhaps better suited to the driving you would be doing.

Keen to see some pics once the chop is done.

Johnno.

thanks for that Jono. sussed them out but went quite what i was after.
Guess ill keep looking.

Kruiser Dude wrote:thanks for that Jono. sussed them out but went quite what i was after.
Guess ill keep looking.

what exactly are you after? Anything wrong with Roctoys?

bogged wrote:

Kruiser Dude wrote:thanks for that Jono. sussed them out but went quite what i was after.
Guess ill keep looking.

what exactly are you after? Anything wrong with Roctoys?

In previous posts he has said himself that his beadlocks are more suited to the rock crawling vehicles than the high speed challenge vehicles.

Unlimited industries makes them.

www.unlimitedindustries.com.au

Web site isn't complete but contact details are there.

Good quality products.

bogged wrote:

Kruiser Dude wrote:thanks for that Jono. sussed them out but went quite what i was after.
Guess ill keep looking.

what exactly are you after? Anything wrong with Roctoys?

i have not had a single complaint about the beadlocks i sell. They are however aimed at the D.I.Y. person who is able to weld them on themselves etc. They do the job.

can I ask what the difference is in high speed beadlocks, and crawling ones?

bogged wrote:can I ask what the difference is in high speed beadlocks, and crawling ones?

I think they higher speed ones would have a re-inforcing ring around the outside of the outer ring, (ie they arent flat) and they have a curve/lip that moulds to the shape of the bead, instead of just squashing it flat... i think.

bogged wrote:can I ask what the difference is in high speed beadlocks, and crawling ones?

Speed, roctoys are not ballanced or do they centre the tyre. At low speed they are fine but at high speed they would create horrable vibrations.

nastytroll wrote:

bogged wrote:can I ask what the difference is in high speed beadlocks, and crawling ones?

Speed, roctoys are not ballanced or do they centre the tyre. At low speed they are fine but at high speed they would create horrable vibrations.

kewl. makes sense.

Roctoy Designfab wrote:

Guts wrote: I'm going to take a guess here and say that you want them for fast events? Well no offence to roctoy but his are NOT what I would want if doing 120kms an hour over a stage in the OBC. Ok for slow rock work. If you want them for fast work then you really should get a set where the ring is more then just a flat plate of steel with another ring welded to it. The more bolts the better. Then having a little lip on the ring that locates it centred to the rim is also best (not many have this) which I really do find surprising.

i would have to agree with Guts on this one.

The beadlocks i sell, are cheap for a reason, if you want something that will do the job on a budjet, yes, buy mine, they will hold the tyre to the rim no worries, i have never had any break, but if you are say doing outback challenge i would be looking for a set of rims made with beadlocks incorporated into them, with centering lips etc, mine are just over 100 bucks per rim, getting say a walker Evans wheel etc are like 500 dollars each so, you do get what you pay for.

no offence taken dave, i know what you're getting at and for the money, mine work well and do the job, but i don't reccomend them for road use (as mech beadlocks of any type are very illegal anyway, and mine are made for the backyard guy who want to rock crawl or weekend wheel or whatever.

different horses for different courses.

anyway i make one type if you want them pm me, but there are more expensive ones on the market with different features.

chris

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... t=beadlock

nastytroll wrote:Speed, roctoys are not ballanced or do they centre the tyre. At low speed they are fine but at high speed they would create horrable vibrations.

Is this fact or urban ledgend ?

More to the point have you had both ?

I have heard alot of people say this but havent actually had both, If its as bad as they say then buy a set of ryano's rims.

But what about for the guy that has two sets of tyres and wants beadlocks ?

Are rocktoys good enough to get you to the trails ? Say 1hr on road ?

Is there someone here that has had both and give there experiance ?

Not having a go at you nastytroll but on here you get f wits that actually havent had any real world experiance.

Nick

CWBYUP wrote:

nastytroll wrote:Speed, roctoys are not ballanced or do they centre the tyre. At low speed they are fine but at high speed they would create horrable vibrations.

Is this fact or urban ledgend ?

More to the point have you had both ?

I have heard alot of people say this but havent actually had both, If its as bad as they say then buy a set of ryano's rims.

But what about for the guy that has two sets of tyres and wants beadlocks ?

Are rocktoys good enough to get you to the trails ? Say 1hr on road ?

Is there someone here that has had both and give there experiance ?

Not having a go at you nastytroll but on here you get f wits that actually havent had any real world experiance.

Nick

I think if you read Roctoy Designfab's comment above from a previous thread, your questions would be answered.

GUJohnno wrote: I think if you read Roctoy Designfab's comment above from a previous thread, your questions would be answered.

Yes and in the that thread he said it would be ok for weekend wheeling.

So have you had any REAL WORLD experiance ? What are they like at 100kms for say an hour to get to the trails ?

I don't want " a mate had them and there shit ", I want to hear from people that have actually had they on there vechiles.

Not having a go at you mate but I cant justify $2k for a set of rims that I will use some weekends and comps.

If roctoys will work I will use them.

Nick

CWBYUP wrote:

GUJohnno wrote: I think if you read Roctoy Designfab's comment above from a previous thread, your questions would be answered.

Yes and in the that thread he said it would be ok for weekend wheeling.

So have you had any REAL WORLD experiance ? What are they like at 100kms for say an hour to get to the trails ?

I don't want " a mate had them and there shit ", I want to hear from people that have actually had they on there vechiles.

Not having a go at you mate but I cant justify $2k for a set of rims that I will use some weekends and comps.

If roctoys will work I will use them.

Nick

ok here's a real world situation.

wheeling a chopped 80 series around the gold coast with a set of 38" swampers on my beadlocks, driving to and from wheeling spots with low psi etc and there was no noticable vibration or ballance issues other than the noise of the swampers.

real world situation #2

mechanical beadlocks are illegal to run on the street anyway, wether you are running $100 per wheel locks of $500 per wheel locks, you will still be defected.

like i stated above they are a DIY kit of laser cut steel rings, nothing flash, but they do the job of holding the tyre to the rim and also protecting the rim a bit from rock damage. When done up tight the bead of the tyre is hard up against the bolts, centering the tyre on the rim, providing the ring has been welded on centre with the wheel itself.

hope that clears that up.

cheers Chris

I have run the trik racing style (blue powdercoated rolled outer ring - a set were for sale on here recently) for into my 8th year now. Mine came from PGS 4X4 in vic, but similar product can be sourced from numerous suppliers around australia.

They can be fine on road, but the key is very careful checking of the tyres alignment as you bolt them down. If you're sloppy when you bolt them up the tyre can walk bit making it roll off centre. This will no be a problem with the trail gear/walker evans style of beadlock with a machined groove to hold the tyre.

I recently welded up a set for running Q78's on a sierra. They run absolutely true on road and there's no noticeable vibration at highway speeds, even with no balance weights on them.

I have no experience with the rocktoy rings, but can only imagine that the lack f a locating rebate in the ring might make it a bit more critical to check alignment as you bolt them up, but I can't see any reason why they'd give any problems.

steve.

i'm gettin some of roctoys ones just bought a brand new set of 36 pedes to go on them will be able to let you know. i'm sure they will be perfect for my rig as it's not a daily drive and is just used for trails. i've never had perfect balanced tyres anyway because they always seem to unbalance after one weekend anyway and it's always driven fine so i can't see it being much worse. maybe the locking ring will protect the stick on weights from being ripped off so i can balance them up a bit better.

Gwagensteve wrote:I have run the trik racing style (blue powdercoated rolled outer ring - a set were for sale on here recently) for into my 8th year now. Mine came from PGS 4X4 in vic, but similar product can be sourced from numerous suppliers around australia.

They can be fine on road, but the key is very careful checking of the tyres alignment as you bolt them down. If you're sloppy when you bolt them up the tyre can walk bit making it roll off centre. This will no be a problem with the trail gear/walker evans style of beadlock with a machined groove to hold the tyre.

I recently welded up a set for running Q78's on a sierra. They run absolutely true on road and there's no noticeable vibration at highway speeds, even with no balance weights on them.

I have no experience with the rocktoy rings, but can only imagine that the lack f a locating rebate in the ring might make it a bit more critical to check alignment as you bolt them up, but I can't see any reason why they'd give any problems.

steve.

same as you. I welded in my own 6mm inner ring then carefully bolted up the same outer rings with the tyre and I have Zero wobbles and i'm running no balance compound or weights.

my swampers run as true on the road (balance wise) as do my balacned radial muddies.

I've driving 120km/hr on these bead locks for hours on end with no worries or wobbles.

and mine are cheap as chips.