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braked winches versas non braked winches on buggy
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:25 pm
by Screwy
just regarding putting 2 little diff winches on my moon buggy....
i can get 2 tonne non braked T max winches at a reasonable price, or the smallest braked winch is 6 tonne and much larger cost....
curious as to what u guys use on your buggys, can i get away with non braked winches just for diff winching work? will it hold the diff down? can i possibly use some sort of setup of pulleys to make these non braked winches hold?
what is the actual difference between a non braked and a braked winch.
cheers
Screwy
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:39 pm
by nottie
Jeff if you are thinking on competing at any time then check the rules on minimum winch size.
Mate really for a buggy i would just go one of the Cheap Ebay 9000 or the likes.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:55 am
by Screwy
ive read the rules, rope only no cable, 5000pound minimum.....
front and back?
but doesnt answer my question on braked or non braked?
ken oath ill be competing. wont be competitive at the start cause my buggy will break like sin with cheap bits in it at the start, but im in it for fun

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:04 am
by nottie
Front only screwy. The non braked type you talk off are they like the Super works boat winches?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:09 am
by Screwy
front only kewl. so ill get a 5 tonne for the front and a small little one for the rear.
The non braked are Tmax 2 tonne non braked winches. can get them through fourbies.
screwy
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:38 am
by andrew e
instead if plasma rope and such, could you use a snatch strap or whinch extension strap?
edit. Nottie, was that the front only needs to be 5000+plasma rope, or front only needs to have a brake?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:02 pm
by nottie
Front has a minimum of 5000 pound. And dont think there is anythn out there that is that size that is not braked? Safer to have though i think and will hold when winching down on the Diff.
I use a cheap ebay $ 500 9000 and its fine. And everyone uses the super works boat winches as they seem to last alot longer than anything else. Also they are only bout $130.00 but cheaper when super crap has 20% off sale

Double line it aswell. When hooking it up.
I dont think its worth while spending big on winches for a buggy. Unless your thinking of not trying to drive stuff and Cable it
On the tie down strap note Andrew We tryed a 2500kg strap on a buggy once and it tore through
If plasma is a bit exy for yas try Yaucht rope as some of them are rated to unbeleivable amounts
Also i havent checked the rules for a bit but am shore last i looked you had to have a minimum of 20 metres of rope on a winch (front ) in case a self recovery is needed

So if the rules are still that way then no need to buy 40 plus metres. Andrew you might as im shore your rig is a bit more versatile for diffrent comps than a tube buggy.
Anyway guys best to check the werock web site for all the rules to clarify everything.
Cheers Nottie
http://www.werockaustralia.com/Rulebook.htm
EDIT yes from last year No steel cable.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:20 pm
by 80lsy gq
Jeff you wont need a winch on the rear mate...save your money and spend it on something else more worthwhile...
dave
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:36 pm
by ljxtreem
Does a non braked winch hold after the motor stops turning?
Im not sure if thats what you mean.
If it dosent it wont be much good for winching diffs.
Mock

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:20 pm
by nottie
Yep what Bowlsey said In a moon buggy a rear is yeah what ever. But in the case of $130.00 Is it worth while at all bowlsey? Asking as i havent drivn a single much.
Mock I think the super works boat winches as used on a rear end are a non braked ( i think) but on a 2 seater with a double line it seems to hold against the shock presure.
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:24 pm
by 80lsy gq
nottie wrote:Yep what Bowlsey said In a moon buggy a rear is yeah what ever. But in the case of $130.00 Is it worth while at all bowlsey? Asking as i havent drivn a single much.
you dont need one in the rear at all...
dave
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:36 pm
by nottie
So is it a rear engine thing or what

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:51 pm
by 80lsy gq
nottie wrote:So is it a rear engine thing or what

he is getting a copy of mine
dave
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:08 pm
by A1
Well it will be upside down all the time then huh Dave
j/k Tom

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:43 pm
by nottie
Bowlsey ya tool i know what Tom has built him , What i am asking is Is there somethn about a rear engine buggy that does not require a rear winch Or makes one just added weight?
Hay Bowlsey
( Love the Camaro :lol Man she hits hard off the line: Better choice then the Qee)
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:17 pm
by Screwy
ill get a 6 tonne jobby off ebay for the front then unless i can score one elsewhere cheap enough.
The rear one ill pick up and wack on there for the sake of 100 bucks i may as well
screwy