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TD42 for a TB45

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:03 pm
by chunderlicious
i think i might be the only person on here that would like to do this conversion so here goes.

i have a TD42 non turbo that is very young (130K approx.) and has also got a rebuilt injector pump and injectors (has writing on pump and blows diesel smoke at hard pulls but not normal driving). the motor is very strong and just needs a turbo to get its boogy going.

now, for reasons that diesel lovers wont understand, i dont like diesel that much and neither does my missus. i would like to take out and sell my TD 42 an replace it with a 4.5 pettie motor.

what could i expect to get for my motor?
do i need a new bellhousing etc.?
are the chassis mounts the same for both motors?

ive seen scot mcgills one for sale and am interested but it depends strongly on how much i am able to get for mine


flame suit on :twisted:

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:19 pm
by nastytroll
What year? does it have cam driven vac pump or altinator?
From what I was told the tb45 will bolt straight up to bell housing n mounts, I also looked at this swap but didnt go through with it.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:24 pm
by chunderlicious
early 1994, alt vac pump.

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:35 pm
by mickyd555
i thought the 4800 would have been a better swap, how much would each of these engines cost you and are you going to run it standard?

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:07 pm
by chunderlicious
whoops

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:07 pm
by chunderlicious
4.5 around $2000 for everything needed including A high pressure pump
4.8 about 2.5g for the same sort of thing but without clutch and flywheel

standard
for now

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:27 pm
by badger
if your gunna replace the diesel get the 4800 or your wasting your time

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 9:24 pm
by CWBYUP
badger wrote:if your gunna replace the diesel get the 4800 or your wasting your time
I agree, If your going from the smog machine you want big horses

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 12:41 am
by tna racing
i can tell you one thing scotts 4.5 would woop a standed 4.8. im only saying this becuase i know him and know the vehicle

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:51 am
by CWBYUP
tna racing wrote:i can tell you one thing scotts 4.5 would woop a standed 4.8. im only saying this becuase i know him and know the vehicle
This may be true, but the standard 4.8 will have better longevity ( most of the time ) and with a few tweaks will hammer

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:05 am
by rOd
CWBYUP wrote:
tna racing wrote:i can tell you one thing scotts 4.5 would woop a standed 4.8. im only saying this becuase i know him and know the vehicle
This may be true, but the standard 4.8 will have better longevity ( most of the time ) and with a few tweaks will hammer
agree.

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:56 am
by weeman
tna racing wrote:i can tell you one thing scotts 4.5 would woop a standed 4.8. im only saying this becuase i know him and know the vehicle
And i know who owned that motor before scott ...

i would get a 4.8 and not waster ur time with the 4.5

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:05 pm
by chunderlicious
weeman wrote:
tna racing wrote:i can tell you one thing scotts 4.5 would woop a standed 4.8. im only saying this becuase i know him and know the vehicle
And i know who owned that motor before scott ...

i would get a 4.8 and not waster ur time with the 4.5
nice :D

would can i expect to be able to get for my TD though?

4.8 everyone thinks is better so if i can find the gear for the conversion for the right price ill go that route nstead of the 4.5.

will the 4.8 handle a turbo better or much the same?

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 5:11 pm
by badger
i would expect being more efficient it would prob not need as much boost to go hard and im sure i also read they have stronger rods. the tb45 run a weaker rod than a tb42 but they are interchangable where as the tb48 is not

dave metcalfs gq runs a tb48 with light mods n it goes realy well n reliable as

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:24 pm
by weeman
chunderlicious wrote:
nice :D

would can i expect to be able to get for my TD though?

4.8 everyone thinks is better so if i can find the gear for the conversion for the right price ill go that route nstead of the 4.5.

will the 4.8 handle a turbo better or much the same?
For your motor you maybe lucky to get about $2500 complete with all bolts on... They're are alot cheaper now and seeing that you dont have turbo on its not worth as much also...

The 4.8 can handle a turbo but to be honest what are you trying to build if its for a daily driver just leave a standard 4.8 .. should you go down the turbo path you will need to beef up more stuff and most turbo 4.8s are over 20k.......

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:27 pm
by chunderlicious
thanks weeman, exactly what i wanted. it is a play car that will be getting comped late next year, i wont be competitive but want to make it fun and i love horsepower.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:04 pm
by hokey
where are you picking up a 4.8 for 2500? wreckers?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:15 pm
by bogged
hokey wrote:where are you picking up a 4.8 for 2500? wreckers?
he means he would get $2500 for his TD42.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:19 pm
by hokey
chunderlicious wrote:4.5 around $2000 for everything needed including A high pressure pump
4.8 about 2.5g for the same sort of thing but without clutch and flywheel

standard
for now
For bogged ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:21 pm
by chunderlicious
wreckers around brisbane. just keep looking and they turn up once or twice a month. at the same time, i found a 4.2 EFI for $1650 with 150 on the clock... the 4.8 had 120K and the 4.5s are all around the 140K mark. most of the 4.8s i found were about $3500 or so, but i guess i called on the right day or got the right people.

i just went through the yellow pages and called one after the other.