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G'day, have been doing a fair bit of reading so i'll only ask 1 question.
I'm getting rid of v8 hilux (fuel chewing excuse of a 4wd) and going down path of td42 again.

Safari (through ARB) quote was $6200 for turbo and intercooler kit, a bit steep. So alot of you have said that it can be done for alot less, would like to know prices for other makes or if anyone has found good prices/kits combined with a bit of self fabricating?

Thanks.

did you ask a price without Intercooler ?

From memory this brings down a fair bit, way over what it would cost to do it your self.

Nick

CWBYUP wrote:did you ask a price without Intercooler ?

From memory this brings down a fair bit, way over what it would cost to do it your self.

Nick

yea, their intercooler is as much as the turbo kit if I remember.

yeh intercooler kit is $3000

get the turbo kit and get an ebay intercooler for a few hungy
and plumb it up
you'll get a better intercooler then the safari unit
(less bends and better flow and larger unit)

if u can afford it get the T3 high flowed for some good fun

the kit on my GQ ute was fitted before I bought it, It was a $6800 kit, turbo, cooler, snorkel, clutch, 3"exhaust fitted and dyno tuned. Cooler was listed at $1698.
It was done by performance offroad, now TJM woolongabba, brisbane.
Goes well enough but I would not spend the money on it myself, If you have a bit of hands on knowlage you can get similar results cheaper or use better components (for results not quality) for the same money.

Yeah thanx guys, your not wrong the intercooler from arb is expensive, i cant see how they justify asking the same as the turbo for it. Was thinking before hand of getting an ebay intercooler, what brands to get or watch out for from experience? Also is the schwitzer turbo better than safari? Or AXT or Denco? Ive owned an sd33 and a td42 before but have never gone down the line of turbo, so abit lacking in experience in that field.

Hey hoonz, have you been to both dynolink and arb or know who is better at tuning up here?

I'll head down to Opposite lock and check out their schwitzer deal this weekend.

Feenz wrote:Yeah thanx guys, your not wrong the intercooler from arb is expensive, i cant see how they justify asking the same as the turbo for it. Was thinking before hand of getting an ebay intercooler, what brands to get or watch out for from experience? Also is the schwitzer turbo better than safari? Or AXT or Denco? Ive owned an sd33 and a td42 before but have never gone down the line of turbo, so abit lacking in experience in that field.

Hey hoonz, have you been to both dynolink and arb or know who is better at tuning up here?

I'll head down to Opposite lock and check out their schwitzer deal this weekend.

i did my own tuning via pyro and boost guage
mine was set up for bulk hp was seeing up to 650 after the turbo after

mike at arb does a good job makes it safe he knows what hes doin

does anyone know what other turbo manifolds fit on a td42 or the cost to get one made

Feenz wrote:Yeah thanx guys, your not wrong the intercooler from arb is expensive, i cant see how they justify asking the same as the turbo for it. Was thinking before hand of getting an ebay intercooler, what brands to get or watch out for from experience? Also is the schwitzer turbo better than safari? Or AXT or Denco? Ive owned an sd33 and a td42 before but have never gone down the line of turbo, so abit lacking in experience in that field.

All the kits are good. Its just HOW good (some inc complete exhaust, others dont etc)., and the service you get with it. I have experience with Denco, adn would go them again in a flash. 3 mates have/had Safari, and dont have a bad word to say either.

Ok, sound advice all. Thanks hoonz, arb were pretty confident when i went in the other day. What about intercoolers I'm deffinately going to save some coin from ebay, but the specs are pretty lacking. You said that safari is more choked for flow than some stuff on ebay what brands do you suggest and dimensions? Heaps of stuff for around 3 Hunge but will it be too restrictive/crap alloy? (havent got donor GQ yet - Easter - so no vehicle to suss out grill space)

Feenz wrote:Ok, sound advice all. Thanks hoonz, arb were pretty confident when i went in the other day. What about intercoolers I'm deffinately going to save some coin from ebay, but the specs are pretty lacking. You said that safari is more choked for flow than some stuff on ebay what brands do you suggest and dimensions? Heaps of stuff for around 3 Hunge but will it be too restrictive/crap alloy? (havent got donor GQ yet - Easter - so no vehicle to suss out grill space)

do some reading www.are.com.au

yes ARE is your friend ...

you can put a 600x300x75 behind the grill without removing the horisontal bars!

Search for my install thread...

you can put a 600x300x75 behind the grill without removing the horisontal bars!

Is that still keeping the air-con

Cheers for those dimensions. And yes ARE was a good read, changed my decision, thankyou.

Mate does a new MTQ system for $3500 fitted, so $6200 is steep by just adding intercooler.

Jimbo wrote:

you can put a 600x300x75 behind the grill without removing the horisontal bars!

Is that still keeping the air-con

The a/c is behind the radiator support panel uprights. So am guessing he is talking about between it and the grill.
Not sure if it would fit. I didn't think there was 75mm of room.

With the Ebay kits. They are just the cooler, generally. Where as the safari is a complete kit bolt in. Thats why they charge for it.

safari turbo kits come with 3" zaust

Jimbo wrote:

you can put a 600x300x75 behind the grill without removing the horisontal bars!

Is that still keeping the air-con

Yep air con stays, like i said look up the thread.......I dont do short cuts chopping out things like air con lol

turps wrote:

Jimbo wrote:

you can put a 600x300x75 behind the grill without removing the horisontal bars!

Is that still keeping the air-con

The a/c is behind the radiator support panel uprights. So am guessing he is talking about between it and the grill.
Not sure if it would fit. I didn't think there was 75mm of room.

With the Ebay kits. They are just the cooler, generally. Where as the safari is a complete kit bolt in. Thats why they charge for it.

I know it does, i have done it on 2 already

If its any help, i've recently been quoted $4500 by Ray at Turbo Engineering (includes before & after dyno sheets, high-flowed water cooled turbo, mandrel bent exhaust, replacement alloy air filter, fuel pump, injectors), with an extra option of a boost compensator (personally i reckon they're a MUST HAVE) for $885. No intercooler included, but can supply/fit air-air or water-air if you want.

JPC quoted me $4093 for a "turbo kit" including before and after dyno run sheets, although they didn't give any detail as to hat the "kit" included. I know two people that have had a kit put on a GQ ($10,000 worth), and a GU comp ute that got "tweaked" at JPC, and let me just say that both of them went like shit off a shovel. Beat any of the V8 falcadores around here hands down.

My only issues (why i havent done it yet) is cause i like the awesome fuel economy my N/A TD42 gets - and every person i know with TD42T or aftermarket systems always get hot under pressure (hills etc) - and that scares the crap out of me. No more $7500 repair bills on this car thanks.

Coxy

coxy321 wrote:... and every person i know with TD42T or aftermarket systems always get hot under pressure (hills etc)

apparently JPC have a fix for that now too.. speak to them about it.

If someon knows or finds out can they let us know what this "fix" is

azzad wrote:If someon knows or finds out can they let us know what this "fix" is

call JPC and ask them.

Who is JPC other than John paul college. I dont see a school doing diesel tuning.

azzad wrote:If someon knows or finds out can they let us know what this "fix" is

haha what magical fix....

its just coolant bypass line into the cylinder head to reduce inlet temps...

do search its been discuess before...

however if you have the right air intake turbo and intercooler you shouldnt have overheating issues both with pyro and engine temps...

thanks weeman, tried calling JPC just now and they didnt answer dont know why

Yom wrote:Who is JPC other than John paul college. I dont see a school doing diesel tuning.

www.jpc.com.au

azzad wrote:thanks weeman, tried calling JPC just now and they didnt answer dont know why

its no secret alot of people still dont do it...

best to sort out other issues first..

i would go to jpc speak to mark they did mi mq cost about $3500 for kit with intercooler very happy with it goes greatttttttttttttt