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just looking at getting new tyres.. 31"...32" can't decide?? wondering on some feedback on which size and wat offset rim to use. do 32" rub. i have no lift at all. i have some toyota offset rims laying around and would run a flexi flare.. any feedback would be appreciated

sorry. forgot to add i have a 97 2.8 TD. would the bigger tyres effect fuel consumption or power? i would be looking at mud terrain.
thanks

just use stock rims

4x4 suzi wrote:just looking at getting new tyres.. 31"...32" can't decide?? wondering on some feedback on which size and wat offset rim to use. do 32" rub. i have no lift at all. i have some toyota offset rims laying around and would run a flexi flare.. any feedback would be appreciated

If you go 32s you will need 15x8s not sure what the off set is but the boxes that mine come in had paj/navara written on them. I get very minimal rubbing and its usually at full articulation and turning, nothing worth worrying about. Fuel economy will go down a little which is to be expected. Definitely get muddies. Also mine dont stick out side the flares.

No you don't need 15/8 I run 265/75/16 witch is a 32 on 16/7 rims


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yes it does depend if you want to run 16 inch or 15 inch rims, not sure what is stock on your 97 pajy but I was referring to 15" rims.( cos you pm me about my tires up for sale) If you are running 16x7s just go 265/75 16 unless your running 2 sets one for road and one for off road then if you go 32x11.5 15 you do get extra width over the 265/75s.

I run 33 inch BFG muddies on my car.... if you have rear leaf suspension the 33 x 12.50 x r15 will rub on the chassis at full articulation with a full load in it..... i run a 15x7 nissan offset rim..... i think the best thing to do is go toyota offset rims....

I am not sure every nissan car has the same offset, nor does every toyota car have the same offset. I have a Nissan Terrano II. Factory positive 25mm offset. Went to buy some black sunny's, and the closest I got was positive 13mm. There is a little more to it than just a nissan/toyota/holden/rover etc etc.....offset. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You need to find out your standard offset which should be marked on your rim (probably the inside, in which case you may need to take the tyre off the car). If you can't understand the code, there are a couple of wheel/tyre guides that will help solve a Sh1t load of problems and give you some good reading (see the link). I guess as well that stud pattern distance needs to be taken into account, and how big your hubs are so as to fit through the centre of your new rims (assuming you will get sunrasias or the like if getting new rims).

http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible.html

Also be aware that increased offset (ie:wider track) will have some sort of effect on components. As I have no idea what tolerences companies put into specific components, it may have a small wearing effect or a larger one. But just something else to concider. Other things to worry about are there are laws as to how much you may offset your rims and increse your wheel track. Different in each state etc....so check what is appropriate for you.

Your offset will determine if it will rub ect on your arches, body etc. Maybe work out the tread width difference between your old and new tyres and work out how much offset you will need to keep your new tyres sitting in a spot they won't rub. Then call around and see who makes what wheel and at what offset then make a choice.

To be honest as well, I don't think going from a standard 30"? to a 31" will require a different offset. I went from 29" or there abouts to 30" and have not had a drama in the world. In saying that though when I had my MK triton, I went up one size and it rubbed the rubber dust guards hangin gdown over the inside of the wheel arch. Ended up with slight marking on the rubber flap.

The other thing you could do is get quotes for both sizes of tyres. When you find a place that has given you a good price, be honest with them and ask if they will trial fit any 30/31/32 that they have in the yard to your car and see how they fit. From there you can then get a proffesionals idea as to the offset you may need.

Sorry its so long

Thanks

PS: My views only and willing to learn from positve help and critisim.

tritontray wrote: (Lots of good stuff!)

Yes, different Nissans will have different offsets, just as different Toyotas have different offsets.

Don't believe an aftermarket "fitment" list offset figures - they typically list their nearest fitment, not the original factory offset (which can vary depending on the wheels anyway...)

I've seen lots of figures from lots of sources, and believe the following:

Gen 2 Pajero factory alloys: +10mm (I even measured mine.)
GQ/GU Patrol: zero offset. (And my Mullins "Patrol offset" steelies have zero offset - I measured them.)
LandCruiser: 60/80 Series seem to be -22/-23mm.
Hilux: Not sure, suspect they're essentially the same as LandCruiser.

Changing offset on your front wheels will affect your scrub radius, which can introduce extra loads on steering and suspension components. I would never recommend running 'Cruiser offset rims on a Pajero or Triton - others do it, and are quite happy.

If you're going up in tyre diameter, this will also affect your scrub radius. 33" tyres on zero offset rims does a pretty good job of putting scrub radius close to where it belongs (and it remains legal...)