Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey guys im doing up my zook 94 and im wanting to do the lift i have the body lift kit here already to go but the next stage i want to do right so if anyone could help it would be great :O)

cant.... take...... it..... any....... more brain melting....

RUFF - can you make the search button about gazillion point? It's obviously far too hard to find.



Steve.

Seriously Rookie_Zookie, do a search.
Also, why do you need 7" of lift?

Gwagensteve wrote: Also, why do you need 7" of lift?

Coz he wants to live in Sydney?

Back to tech, Zook + 7" lift = Tired Zook (It'll keep wanting to lay down for a nap).

First off, you're in Queensland so I hope you intend to drive on the road.

Second, read Steve's signature line above (Steve don't change it on me now)

Thre's one set up exactly the way you want already for sale....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/suzuki-sierra-4w ... dZViewItem

Too easy!

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:Thre's one set up exactly the way you want already for sale....

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/suzuki-sierra-4w ... dZViewItem

Too easy!

Steve.

Holy crap .. check out the steering .. and front lift blocks ...



Thats just so wrong on so many levels ...

love_mud wrote:Holy crap .. check out the steering .. and front lift blocks ...



Thats just so wrong on so many levels ...

actually, I can't figure out what's going on at the knuckle at all.... but it can't be good.

I think the U bolt will hit the chassis before the shock bottoms.. amongst other terminal problems with this steaming nard.

Steve.

rookie, Im not sure what an over sping is but I think you're asking about spring overs.

Seeing as you're located in qld, you will be unable to get this mod engineered and therefore unable to legally use your zook on the road.

Honestly, you will not need to run a body lift on top of a springover. You will be recoculously tall and extremely prone to tipping in even a slight off camber situation. Look at guard chops before adding more lift, just because you want to run larger tyres does not mean you go reaching for as much height as possible. your car will look silly as well as being outright dangerous. Trust me, Ive owned a body lifted, sprungover sierra and I wouldnt do anything other than mall crawling in it before I removed the body lift.

Having said all that, this is the right way to do it but it is not a mod to be performed by anyone who considers themselves a "rookie". It requires a good welding and mildy complex goemetry adjustments to your steering and driveline angles.

Im not telling you not to do it but there is a bunch of other mods that could suit your needs better than a SOA. Why not post up your plans and let some of the genuine genius's on here suggest a good, safe way to acheive your aims.

I think the EBAY rig may have scared the carp out him....

Looks like a dunnydore is a much safer option

v840 wrote:rookie, Im not sure what an over sping is but I think you're asking about spring overs.

Seeing as you're located in qld, you will be unable to get this mod engineered and therefore unable to legally use your zook on the road.

Honestly, you will not need to run a body lift on top of a springover. You will be recoculously tall and extremely prone to tipping in even a slight off camber situation. Look at guard chops before adding more lift, just because you want to run larger tyres does not mean you go reaching for as much height as possible. your car will look silly as well as being outright dangerous. Trust me, Ive owned a body lifted, sprungover sierra and I wouldnt do anything other than mall crawling in it before I removed the body lift.

Having said all that, this is the right way to do it but it is not a mod to be performed by anyone who considers themselves a "rookie". It requires a good welding and mildy complex goemetry adjustments to your steering and driveline angles.

Im not telling you not to do it but there is a bunch of other mods that could suit your needs better than a SOA. Why not post up your plans and let some of the genuine genius's on here suggest a good, safe way to acheive your aims.

Well said V840. After all the dumb questions on here lately I just couldn't be bothered doing anything except taking the piss.

That ZukiKrawler thread is a good one. Couple of points though - the hogged out merc steering arm is IMHO hack - it's cheap, but there are better options, and lengthened brake lines are cheap enough to not warrant extending the stock lines and adding extra parts.

It's a good indication of what's involved though.

Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:
Well said V840. After all the dumb questions on here lately I just couldn't be bothered doing anything except taking the piss.


Steve.

Yeah what's the go with the influx of retarded noobs?

Lately I've been having a finer appreciation for the Pirate approach to dealing with the questions and posts that have been appearing here. School must be starting soon.......PLEASE

GRPABT1 wrote:

Gwagensteve wrote:
Well said V840. After all the dumb questions on here lately I just couldn't be bothered doing anything except taking the piss.


Steve.

Yeah what's the go with the influx of retarded noobs?

I'm pretty recent to this site and their already driving me batty
Note to all dumb arse's DO A SEARCH OR CHECK THE BIBLE FIRST!!!!!!
Then if all else fails ask the question!

Gwagensteve wrote:That ZukiKrawler thread is a good one. Couple of points though - the hogged out merc steering arm is IMHO hack - it's cheap, but there are better options, and lengthened brake lines are cheap enough to not warrant extending the stock lines and adding extra parts.

It's a good indication of what's involved though.

Steve.

Agreed Steve. I have said before that IMHO the merc arm is a poor substitute for proper hi-steer. It was more to show the calibre of work involved.

the question is why do you need a SPRING OVER zook?

what size tire are you going to run, a 40-44?

anything else can be run spring under, and without any lift , i've done it

steve, is there a better option under $1000? i know of a set of the merc arms installed an engineered and instead of filing out the rear hole, he straightened the arch out of the arm to get the right length. i like the snake racing knuckle too, but i like my $1000 better.
side note on the noob thing, yes the bible has some good info in it but to me that search button is the biggest waste of time going. i dont think i have ever put a search in and come up with the right answer in less than 10 pages of dribble.
jason

mr green wrote:
side note on the noob thing, yes the bible has some good info in it but to me that search button is the biggest waste of time going. i dont think i have ever put a search in and come up with the right answer in less than 10 pages of dribble.
jason

amen

there is alot of stuff being sold in the us to suit right hand drive applications which wont cost you 1k.



search noob

mr green wrote:steve, is there a better option under $1000? i know of a set of the merc arms installed an engineered and instead of filing out the rear hole, he straightened the arch out of the arm to get the right length.

That sounds like a better solution so long as heat treatment was well controlled. I'm still uncomfortable with steering off the caliper bracket though, and as for running two merc arms in high steer, these will completely stuff the ackerman angle.

I agree that $1K is prohibitive for many people, but it really is the best solution - there's just not enough meat anywhere on the knuckle to bolt and arm and expect reliability/strength.

As for the search thing - I have had good results with it, but normally I'm looking for specific things. I agree it's clunky though. Normally I only get ansty when tuff has been covered recently and I know it isn't hard to find.

Obviously, if you put "suzuki" or "Sierra" in, you're going to have trouble.

I put "spring over how to" into search and got this thread on the second page. No, it's not a how to, but it does have a good description of the pros and cons and some "robust" discussion about costs.

http://carl.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopi ... ght=spring

Along with all this in the bible...

http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=174
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=44601
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=48322

Steve.

mr green wrote:
side note on the noob thing, yes the bible has some good info in it but to me that search button is the biggest waste of time going. i dont think i have ever put a search in and come up with the right answer in less than 10 pages of dribble.
jason

Search button is a tool, you must know how to use it. Perhaps we could write a HOW TO PROPERLY USE THE SEARCH BUTTON thread and explain how to be specific and find the right thing. I'm on alot of forums and this search button is no different from others.

for get about the merc arms they are junk.

the best option is the snake high steer.

but if you are on a budget then get your hands on a drop pitman arm. this is what i used 10 years ago to cure the steering on my spring over zook, the arm i got was a "trail master" 3" drop pitman arm. this left everything else stock, it bolted on and my drag link never hit my springs at full lock.

they are cheap, and live is expensive. don't mess with your life or other road users lives. we have enough trouble, with getting even the smallest mods approved. without someone (who wanted to save a few dollars) killing someone else in a modified 4x4.

breaks and steering are the most important thing on ANY car.

mugginsmoo wrote: breaks and steering are the most important thing on ANY car.

Closely followed by power

the search button is awesome, when you know how to use it

less words make your search better, and using and inbetween the words means that it only gives you post with the word " suzuki and springover and engineered"
when you have looked at that then put a space in "spring and over"

"suzuki and spring and over and engineered"

I agree with GRPABT1 (second time today) that a how to search would be good.

another good idea is google how to search.
personally I would rather search for what I want to know and read about it, then ask a question and get a thread started with poeple telling me why I shouldn't do this and that and do this that way. for me I just want the info if I search I find the info and ignore all the shtt comments
like with the sr20det conversion thread I started, was meant to be tech about putting the motor into a zuk, but I had people telling me why I shouldn't, I should read such and such a post its already been done. now there is about half a page of usefull info and some pics and a page of dribble.

but thats life.

ps the bible isn't that well organised, but is useful at the same time.

sorry about the rant
ashley

X2 Germo, well said.

germo wrote: I agree with GRPABT1 (second time today) that a how to search would be good.

Quick someone check that the Earths rotational axis isn't out of alignment lol.

Layto....

Dont just limit yourself to searchs of the forum.

I used a search tool called Google to get instructions to do my first SPOA about 6 years ago.

I got step by step instructions with pictures