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3rds vs superior front arms for gq

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:55 am
by tazzazuk
my brother asked me to ask this question cuase he is not sure wat to do (he is just rebuilding his gq ute at the moment)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:25 am
by Rogue Patrol
Pretty vague and all up to personal choice.
I prefer boxes over arms anyway.
I have superior boxes for my 4".

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:51 am
by 1MadEngineer
std type drop arms only correct castor, and dont give any more flex, Superior arms fix castor and have modified bush geometry to provide better flex.
SEARCH for comments on 3rds arms, i think you will find quite a few comments on the cracking of the mounts on the chassis caused by the force of the pivots. ( only from what i have read , and seen ).

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:19 pm
by AJS
If you intend to make it legal, speak to your engineer first. I ended up going with Snake arms because he said that he had engineered these before and was quite happy to do it without the test certificate. It turned out to be much simpler that way because I was in Sydney at the time.

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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:27 pm
by unimog
I HAVE BE USING 2DEXTREME ARMS IN MY TRUCK 'S ( GU AND GQ ) AND I FIND THEM TO BE THE BEST I HAVE DRIVE AND SEEN .
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:09 pm
by CHOOFA
I second that i run them in my race truck an they are great.

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:54 pm
by ats4x4dotcom
drop boxes make for a better driving vehicle, because they get the angle of the arm back to horizontal, so the wheel doesnt have to go forward to go up, when you hit a bump, like when they are down on an angle.

Superiors slim boxes dont hang down very far either.

Arms are just expensive castor plates really, thats all they fix, is castor.

Drop boxes also allow the bushes to be centre of the flex point, allowing full up and down travel, without over stressing the bushes at the chassis end, using factory bushes, which last thelongest IMHO when set up right.

Re: 3rds vs superior front arms for gq

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:04 pm
by Suspension Stuff
tazzazuk wrote:my brother asked me to ask this question cuase he is not sure wat to do (he is just rebuilding his gq ute at the moment)
Superiors Arms will give you heaps of suspension travel on the front and all other arms don't give much more if at all.

Some arms use flexy bushes that give a bit more flex but they will flog out quicker. Having said this you can always put flexy bushes inside your castor correction plates or inside your radius arms coupled with drop boxes.

Shane

Re: 3rds vs superior front arms for gq

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:23 pm
by bogged
Also depends on the rest of the setp.

See the results of proper setups..

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=117558
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/phpBB2/vi ... p?t=130876

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:48 pm
by azzad
Ill put a vote in for Big O drop arms, great value for money.

PM Oondy for more information

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:12 am
by oondy
ats4x4dotcom wrote:Drop boxes also allow the bushes to be centre of the flex point, allowing full up and down travel, without over stressing the bushes at the chassis end, using factory bushes, which last thelongest IMHO when set up right.
I think you'll find that drop arms also fix this problem, its only with offset caster bushes and caster plates that you still get the binding of the bush at the chassis end......all CASTER bushes and CASTER plates do is fix the CASTER.....well to some degree anyway.

mine with heavy 3" coils in the front with std nissan bushes still out flexed my 2" setup wit the factory arms and shock disonnected, the working radius of the drop arm is longer than the factory arms so it allows the front to twist slightly more, its still pretty average but alot better than std.

cheers

OONDY