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Need help with some build ideas for my 45
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:39 pm
by 86slowsierra
Hey guys.
I have a fj45 that i use in a Tug-o-war comp and im starting to want more out of her. What are your ideas?
Has to be nothing more than a 6ltr and only 2wd.
i was thinking along the lines of a 350 with a t400 but thats about all i got.
thanks for any ideas.
tim.
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:59 am
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
why only 2 wheel drive???
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:17 am
by bj on roids
if its for tug-o-war:
GO BIG
HEAVY!!
Cast iron block, heavy, big horsepower and add lots and lots of weight, D70 rear, sandbag the tray big heavy front bar and rollcage etc...
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:54 am
by 1MadEngineer
bj on roids wrote:if its for tug-o-war:
GO BIG
HEAVY!!
Cast iron block, heavy, big horsepower and add lots and lots of weight, D70 rear, sandbag the tray big heavy front bar and rollcage etc...
2 x 2jz 3ltr twin turbos bolted together = 6lt
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:49 pm
by RUFF
1MadEngineer wrote:bj on roids wrote:if its for tug-o-war:
GO BIG
HEAVY!!
Cast iron block, heavy, big horsepower and add lots and lots of weight, D70 rear, sandbag the tray big heavy front bar and rollcage etc...
2 x 2jz 3ltr twin turbos bolted together = 6lt
He needs Tourque not HP.
Re: Need help with some build ideas for my 45
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:50 pm
by RUFF
86slowsierra wrote:Hey guys.
I have a fj45 that i use in a Tug-o-war comp and im starting to want more out of her. What are your ideas?
Has to be nothing more than a 6ltr and only 2wd.
i was thinking along the lines of a 350 with a t400 but thats about all i got.
thanks for any ideas.
tim.
You just looking for more power or are you looking to do more work to get this thing to actually hook up and pull. IE; a Suspension set up in the rear and more weight over the front?
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 8:32 am
by 4sum4
are the tug-o-war in reverse or front?
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:05 pm
by 86slowsierra
DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:why only 2 wheel drive???
The Comp is run as a 2wd event so as to get a more diverse range of vehicle’s i.e. Torana’s, HQ's, patrols ect. Pintara's are banned tho.
RUFF wrote:
You just looking for more power or are you looking to do more work to get this thing to actually hook up and pull. IE; a Suspension set up in the rear and more weight over the front?
Im interested in doing whatever will give me the edge. i've put heavy duty leafs in the rear thinking it will stop warping and will keep everything forced to the earth.
i would have thought that more weight in the rear would be better than the front; forcing the tyres into the earth.
4sum4 wrote:are the tug-o-war in reverse or front?
Its hitched in the rear so im driving forwards.
RUFF wrote:
He needs Tourque not HP.
Yeah, I’m thinking more torque and higher revs.
Keeping in mind that each supercharger/turbo is counted as an extra 1lr, and im limited to 6lrs.
i am really interested in everything you guys have to say.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:10 pm
by RAY185
86slowsierra wrote:Pintara's are banned tho.
So are there any limitations on gearing or the type of tyres you use (I'm thinking something agricultural)?
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:31 pm
by MissDrew
bead locks for the rear rims and air down real low, there is one cheep way to get heeps more traction
Get some of those big arse weights they put on the front of tractors that don't have buckets on them. They are real heavy and help push the weight further out front.
Having lots of weight out front helps keep the front wheels on the ground.
If you don't drive it on the road then put water or lead in your tyres.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:37 pm
by 86slowsierra
yeah ag tyers are fine to run and a few rigs do.
I'm Running 33x14 Boggers as i figure the wider the tyre the better and 33's arnt that tall.
Yes the rear is locked.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:49 pm
by 86slowsierra
Guts wrote:bead locks for the rear rims and air down real low, there is one cheep way to get heeps more traction
Get some of those big arse weights they put on the front of tractors that don't have buckets on them. They are real heavy and help push the weight further out front.
Having lots of weight out front helps keep the front wheels on the ground.
If you don't drive it on the road then put water or lead in your tyres.
Ill have a look in the rules to see what they say about bead locks. Would a low profile tube work as an internal bead lock?
How would i go about getting water into the tyre?
Would it be a case of the more weight the better or does it need to be some measured amont?
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:12 pm
by MissDrew
Put a second valve directly opposite the one in the rim now.
Sit tyre so that the 2 valves are horizontal
remove the core of both valves
put the hose over one valve
once the water runs out the other valve it is half full.
Or you can put it so the 2 valves are vertical
put hose over bottom valve
once water runs out the top valve the tyre is filled level with the top of the rim.
I'd try with all 4 half full first off and then play around with more or less front and rear. I think it would have to be a trial and error thing till you got the rite amount. It would be something that you'd have to find a happy medium between extra traction and power loss.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:13 pm
by MissDrew
Tubes are tubes, they are not bead locks.