Outer Limits 4x4 Board

has anyon ever used these replacment halogen globes


they produce blue light and are said to produce 50% more
light on the road and a 20m longer beam.


are they worth it

Is it just me or do the new globes look like the dreaded red X?

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I put a pair of those lights in my work ute (ford 02) they are a much better beam and much clearer (not sure if i would pay the retail price for them though).
The problem i have is if i throw a bit of weight in the back it tips the beam up a little and people think i'm driving with my high beams on. I don't do this enough to get better suspension. My point being that i have thought about them for my gq but think that the extra hight might upset people coming in the other direction. Although they are legal would hate for the DOT boys to pull me over because of the lights and start looking for other things.

cant u adjust your lights to make the beam lower?



how expensive are they?



anyone else had experience with these globes?

i got a GQ lifted 6", with 90W low beams and 130W hi's, i have never been hassled by the cops to this date touch wood, i havnt had them adjusted since i put them in.

you need to see these lights in action to understand fully its not as much the ange but how bright they are even compared to bigger wattage in standard globes.
yeah you can adjust the angle but it still puts of a lot of light.
I am very happy with them in my ute don't get me wrong.
just be aware that they put out an uncommon light that may attract attention.
have got 90W low beams in the gq at the moment - Wouldn't swap to blue lights in in though -
Talk to auto suppliers like global to find out what they think
I'd like to see what they would perform like in a 4x4 hopefully i am wrong with what i think

The +50 bulbs are generally a great improvement. But don't get the ones with a blue tint. The blue will scatter like mad in the rain and you will get a lot of glare.

The ones to get are the natural daylight colour as opposed to blue.

Cheers, Steve

thanks guys

how much will i be lookin at

around $60 for 2

are they the phillips crystal vision? or just off the shelf brand H4 replacement?

I have been in a mates prado before and after the phillips crystal vision globes went in, and there was no comparison, phillips crystal vision globes won hands down.

I believe they are also 50watt, but equivalent to 90/100 watt low beam lamp.

they a phillips vision plus
but they also have crystal vision



what is the best

i was running some blue ones in the rocky i usta have, cost me $30 for two... they were pretty crap, actually think my old globes were better. could be cos they were cheap tho, not sure...

Make sure if you get aftermarket globes that they have an in built UV filter- otherwise you're reflector and lense (if it's plastic) won't last long!

Also be careful of the extra heat that they generate- it can also cause problems. And of course if you're increasing the wattage, the current draw through the wiring will also increase, so make sure you won't be overloading your factory wiring.

I got some of these from autobahn (they where the cheaper ones though) and I thought they where crap. 1 blew within a day - only about 20mins use. the other lasted a week and when it blew it cracked the globe and covered the lens with crap, which couldn'g be cleaned off. So had to buy a new headlight and new globes.
The last headlight and globe I got was $28 all up from autopro in Bendigo. Which now work fantastic ( 90/135w globe).

thanks guys great info


by going higher wattiage there will be an increase in light emmitted

yeah, and also current drawn

when you get them DONT touch the glass bulb, as residue from your skin stays on the bulb and creates a 'hot spot', which causes the bulbs to blow VERY quickly

so the globes i took out are gunna blow verrrry quickly


coz i touched them all over the glass

RB zook wrote:so the globes i took out are gunna blow verrrry quickly


coz i touched them all over the glass

just experience i've had myself, and others i know have had

whooops i guess when i get the new ones i will know




thanks

RB zook wrote:so the globes i took out are gunna blow verrrry quickly


coz i touched them all over the glass

Try cleaning them with metho- that should fix them.

RB zook wrote:thanks guys great info


by going higher wattiage there will be an increase in light emmitted

It also makles the bulb alot more fragile as the fillament is longer and made of thinner wire that is at a higher temp ... One even smallish puddle splashed up ont the headlight (if it's been on a while) can mean cracked headlight lenses and blown globes .. (I have done this with cheap H4's as well as Hella and IPF

You better off making sure that the wireing to you lights is truely top notch The difference in the amount of light put out is HUGE even say between 11.5 and 12.5 volts at the light itself ..

I put the IPF H4 globes in and the difference was amazing. Drawes the same current and don't run hotter and close to 2x brighter. But they cost about $130 and the first set blew within a moth or two. They were replaced no worries 'cause they were faulty.
Have also used some Narva ones that worked great and only cost about $30.
Most of these use a better technology htan from standard which emit a brighter light without drawing extra volts or burn hotter.
Clean your standard set and put them in the case that the new ones come in and put it in your glove box as spares.
John.

I read somewhere that if you go much higher than 55watts, more energy goes toward heat output than light output. Dunno if its true or not.

Just note that increasing globe wattage has limited benefits (if any) if you are using the crappy original wiring installed on most vehicles.

In most cases you'll get more benefits by upgrading the wiring than by upgrading the globes - although of course the best benefits of all come from upgrading both.

Jason

Iv'e tried Narva and phillips, hard to say if the phillips are worth the extra $$ over Phillips, The big difference I found is by upgrading the headlight wiring, Phillips say that a 15% voltage drop = 50% light output loss

wats the best way to test the wiring.

with lights on
1.take the globe out than test with multimeter
or
2.with the globe still in just hook up to + and -

My mate put a set of the blue ones in his jimny (don't know the brand but not the cheapies) and they are very bright

One night we missed the last barge so had to drive the long way to Double Island Point via Gympie and the whole way other cars were high beaming us.

At first we kept slowing down for the radar assuming this was a kind warning but after a dozen or so flashes we realised everyone thought he had his high beams on

I reckon they're too bright

RB zook wrote:wats the best way to test the wiring.

with lights on
1.take the globe out than test with multimeter
or
2.with the globe still in just hook up to + and -

Leave the globes in. Measure the voltage across the globe's two terminals and then the voltage across battery's terminals with the lights on and engine running. Subtract the two and you'll get the voltage dropped across the wiring.

Don't forget you'll get voltage drop across all wiring associated with the globe (eg. battery positive -> globe positive terminal AND globe negative terminal -> battery negative.)

i test my driving lights and also my normal lights

from the battery it showed 11.5v
than across both sets of lightes 11v


so there is a drop of 0.5v will this affect performance
would it be benifical to re do wiring.

also should i get a new battery