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which chevy v8 to put in gu wagon

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:41 pm
by offroader-rama
I am building a gu wagon mainly for towing a car trailer and touring but capable at the same time it has 5 inch springs 2dextreme arms 2 inch body 35's air lockers etc...
I am planning chev, kitted 4sp auto and 85% gears i have 4.1's at moment but may change this if needed I brought the kit from marks today for engine auto and a set crawler gears.
What i need help for is what chev do i run with 350, 383, 454 etc... it will be LPG dedicated and what diff ratio will work best.
the gu wieghs a shit load and as i am going auto and have crawler gears i think i should conentrate on torque vs economy ( :shock: !! I know silly thing to put in here, :oops: ecomony :oops: ) any way a 454 will give me balls of torque over a 350 but will it be to big a price from economy will a 350 be enough and if I go 383 then it has to built what kit and by whom etc... I want it reliable for every day driving most of importantly i dont want to do it twice.
:cool: Of course i want to show of in a chev gu but i dont have to be the fastest and the best.
who has done this what did you learn from it

cheers

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:58 pm
by RN
Gen 4..I think you can get them for about 4.5K in the crate through Holden. That is what a mate told me as he is thinking of putting one in his 5.7 2000 club sport.

I think they are a terrific motor. Torquey, gutsy but docile.

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 11:05 pm
by offroader-rama
i dont want a computer in it.
all i want is a elec dizzy, straight gas, power steer, air con.
no frills its a dx it will be gernied in side and out if i want to play with power and electrics i play with my sierra i want this turn key drive away a no bull tough truck.

but thanks for your thoughts

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 5:28 am
by CWBYUP
454 for sure, its going to have heaps more torque that either of the other two and in standard set up there they will last a long time if treated correctly.

Never seen a 383 that didn't have problems and a carbie 350 just dosent do it for me. No where near the power in standard form ( which is what i'm assuming you want )

The problem with all 3 engines that you have listed is that once tricked up they can be hard to deal with, specialised tuners etc.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:11 pm
by offroader-rama
Yeah power is what i want, after spending so much money converting it, it has to be better than whats available standed and a 4.8ltr is pretty dam good i want this to be better than 4.8ltr of course.
As for carby it'll be straight lpg i may keep a carby aside if needed for emergencys etc.. There is no reason why it cant proform like a injected v8 with the lpg but a whole lot more simple to maintain.

Change of plans today and i am going 5 sp manual to keep it simple looks like 454 is out unless i go indivdual constructed vehicle so 383 is looking very good at this point. A 350 is to ordanary I have had 3 now i want some thing different.

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:49 pm
by roverrat
righto more money than cents as the saying goes .... so a 350 stroked to 383 nice an torquey straight gas ie 2 x gas research or sim on torquer manifold i assume?? Talk to COME racing

http://www.comeracing.com/

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 3:23 pm
by brad-chevlux
talk to rocket industries about the price of Edelbrock crate motors.


http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_new ... ng_cat.pdf

get that, sell the intake and carby on ebay and get a Performer airgap manifold for it a holley 4brl throotle body. and run the gas on it.

peak torque at 4000rpm with more the 300ft/lbs from 2000rpm.



PERFORMER HI-TORQ 9.0:1
Maximum Torque &
Low RPM Performance
SPECIFICATIONS
• Displacement ...............................350 c.i.d.
• Horsepower..................................363
• Torque...........................................405 ft/lbs.
• Bore x Stroke ...............................4.00" x 3.48"
• Compression ................................9.0:1
• Max RPM ......................................5500
• Block.............................................New GM 4-bolt
- 2-piece rear main seal
• Crank ............................................Cast iron
• Pistons..........................................Cast aluminum
• Camshaft...................................Edelbrock Performer
hydraulic roller #2208
- (.462" / .479" lift)
- (212° / 222° duration @ .050)
• Front Cover...................................Aluminum
- With teflon cam thrust button
• Rocker arms.................................Aluminum roller 1.5:1
• Manifold....................................Edelbrock Performer EPS Vortec
- Performer EPS Vortec #2716
• Carburetor.................................Edelbrock Electric Choke
- 650 cfm Thunder Series AVS #1806
• Cylinder Heads..........................E-Tec 170 #60979
- Vortec-style intake port with 64cc Combustion chamber
- 170cc intake runner / 70cc raised exhaust runner
- Stainless steel 1.94" intake / 1.55" exhaust valves
- Made from A356 T-6 aluminum
• Distributor ....................................MSD Pro Billet with Blaster 2 Coil
• Warranty.......................................2 Year/Unlimited Mileage
- $0 deductible
• Water pump ..............................Edelbrock Victor Series
- Short style #8810
- Long style #8811
• Order the “Polished Package”
- Edelbrock manifold
- Edelbrock cylinder heads
- Edelbrock water pump
• Valve Covers .............................Edelbrock Elite Series
with custom badge

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:25 pm
by offroader-rama
if any one is educated with GMH 6ltr L76 create motor not just a sales man trying to make a sale could they pm me with a ph no. i have an idea but need good advise.

thanks rama

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:57 am
by nastytroll
talk to joel at pgs

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:07 pm
by BowTieGQ
Beat me to it. His username is PGS4WD