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Has anyone had this lift done to their rig or have they installed themselves. Not interested in the 2" really.

Very interested in what those peoples opinion are.

MArc

Shark wrote:Has anyone had this lift done to their rig or have they installed themselves. Not interested in the 2" really.

Very interested in what those peoples opinion are.

MArc

to what model Patrol?

Young bloke at Meneres BMW has a 3inch body and 2in suspension... looks kinda weird though...

YMMV..

88 MAV SWB

Just wanna be able to clear 33's without breaking the bank.

MArc

I would go a 4" sus lift... Approx $1400 for springs and shocks.... Thats not breaking the bank... Oh, and at least a 3degree caster bush set...
33's clear easy with that lift...

Shark wrote:88 MAV SWB

Just wanna be able to clear 33's without breaking the bank.

MArc

you could do it with a 3inch sus lift pretty easily... no body lift, will be under a grand, no engineers required, no casters...

with a body lift, there are other things you need to hack like bullbar etc to clear headlights, rear bumper needs hacking and lifting, shifters need bending/cutting welding... brake lines etc etc..

Your call.

bogged wrote:

Shark wrote:88 MAV SWB

Just wanna be able to clear 33's without breaking the bank.

MArc

you could do it with a 3inch sus lift pretty easily... no body lift, will be under a grand, no engineers required, no casters...

with a body lift, there are other things you need to hack like bullbar etc to clear headlights, rear bumper needs hacking and lifting, shifters need bending/cutting welding... brake lines etc etc..

Your call.

Yeah. I have 32s on with no lift at all. There's a guy near my place that does 3" lifted suspension for $750 fitted on a GQ using Dobinson springs. Admittedly that's more than body lift is going to cost you but it's still pretty reasonable, and it's a much better way of doing it - that much suspension lift should also improve your articulation.

Too much body lift is noticeable and looks weird.

Still, as Bogged said, it's your call.

Jason

The only reason i dont really wanna go for the suspension lift is mainly the cost, i dont have 1500 spare and thats what arb wanted to do a 3" lift!!! They said i needed new shocks and springs and gearbox packers and uni joints????????


Thats why

Marc

Shark wrote:The only reason i dont really wanna go for the suspension lift is mainly the cost, i dont have 1500 spare and thats what arb wanted to do a 3" lift!!! They said i needed new shocks and springs and gearbox packers and uni joints????????


Thats why

Marc

Yours is a shorty??
TJM do a kit for shit loads under $1000... But I realise that $1000 is still hard to come by... :(

What is this kit?? What i want is enough room to fit 33's comfortably, be able to find someone to fit the lift kit and it not be a real hassel. $1000 is hard to come by when you have other priorities but if you guys think i would be far far better saving my money and getting the springs then i will BUT if its anything over $1000 then i will prolly just get the body lift and spend a few days adjusting stuff to suit.

I will never be going any bigger than 33's.


Marc

If all you need is enough room to fit 33's. Then the body lift is the cheap opion. Guessing if it is a shorty it aint std susp anyway. My GQ SWB had a 2" susp lift for ages and ran 285/75R16 (33") for 4yrs before I fitted my BL. The tyres did rub on the body Inside of gaurd and the front mud flaps. But that was all.
So the body lift would work, only prob is for your $100 - 300 there is no other benifit other than room to fit 33's and a slightly higher ride hieght.

Shark wrote:What is this kit??

3inch lift kit from TJM, XGS and Series 2000 shocks, thats what I had before, and a mate has now with 33s on.

Mines lifted more than 3inch and the tires hit on the chassis rail inside the guards.

If you are looking for someone to fit a spring lift (only fiddly bit really is pressing in the castor bushes if required) then I dare say that going 3" body lift is going to start to cost you as well.

At 3" of body work you'll be modifying all of your barwork, probably need to modify / extend the shifters, etc. Once you fit body lift you really need to get engineers to keep it legal and the cost of the engineers, the labour to fit and the body lift kit itself is likely to cost far more than the TJM kit that others have pointed out.

I think a body lift would solve your problem because a spring lift will still have the same problem when fully compressed

Beefie

Have you actually priced what it will cost you for a body lift to be installed? The way you talk about the cost of the ARB/TJM ssuspension setup it sounds like you were going to get them to install it. I may be wrong though...

If you were going to install the body lift yourself, I will bet you any money that the suspension lift is ten times easier to install, and something that you could easily do with simple tools. You will prolly be looking at about 600-800 bucks to have a body lift installed by a shop, to a professional standard with all the details taken care of.

So i am left with a few things to think of Its a hard choice wether you want a offroad beast or a weekend car and when i thought about it the other night all this car is a daily driver and once to twice a month i will take it on a soft-core track and some basic beach work and thats pretty much it!! I dont need heaps of articulation all i need is enough height to fit some 33's. Im pretty confident that i can fit a body lift in myself as long as i am organised. PLUS if i can do the body lift myself i will save alot of moola.


Yes i am a tightarse , apparently a house is more important

MArc

Shark wrote:Yes i am a tightarse , apparently a house is more important MArc

That sounds like the wife talking ...

www.gqpatrol.com theres a how to on body lifts.. everything you need.

trust me stay away from a 3 inch body lift i took mine out put a 2inch in and then got a 3 inch lift nothing but problems with a 3 inch body

keep an eye out for some 2nd hand springs, std height 80 series cruiser coils will lift the front 3" and get a 2nd hand set for the ars. iran the std shocks with that lift for about 6months. all up i paid $130 for 2 crusier coils and a pair of 2 week old dobinsons for the back.

mudmav wrote:trust me stay away from a 3 inch body lift i took mine out put a 2inch in and then got a 3 inch lift nothing but problems with a 3 inch body

A nice bit of timely advice there

chimpboy wrote:

mudmav wrote:trust me stay away from a 3 inch body lift i took mine out put a 2inch in and then got a 3 inch lift nothing but problems with a 3 inch body

A nice bit of timely advice there

I didnt notice it was a grave dig untill I read I had replyed to it.

So wonder what he ended up doing.

3inch lift kit... Where can I get one for $750

shanej wrote:3inch lift kit... Where can I get one for $750

Now since we are talking coil susp. That price isnt for a leaf sprung old jigger.
But 4wdstuff seems to do some great prices. Could see what he will do for a leaf car.

Stay away from 3" body
I sell 2" bodylifts $100 SWB and $115 LWB will take you about half a day to install, very basic.

oops

I've got a 89 SWB TB42 AUTO with 2" spring & 1" body. Total price roughly $1000.

I had the suspension lift put in but have since seen how simple it is and would do it myself next time to save money. 2" lift didnt require any castor correction plates and consisted of 4 springs, 4 shocks, transmission x-member spacers (now taken out). Anyone with a basic spanner set and a trolley jack can do this. Depending on what springs and shocks you buy the price of this could vary alot. I used King springs & ironman shocks.

The body lift of 1" I put in my self in about 6 hours in my driveway without having seen it done before. Very easy 8 bolts & spacers to be replaced, no requirement for extended brake hoses and I bent the dif breather tubes in the engine bay about an inch to suit. The 4wd shifter in the cab didn't need modification to shift into low-4. Get some high tensile bolts & lock nuts from your local fastener store and have some suitable diameter bar cut and drilled into 8 1" discs at a local machine shop.

My car accomodates 33" tires without any problem.

MEX

I got 2" springs with 30mm spacer in the rear and a 65mm body lift with 33 muds clears well body lift cost me 130 in parts and did it my self not that hard just takes time and handles well on road

2" OME lift on '88 swb just scrubs on full compression and full lock with 33" Coopers. Trimming the rear qtrs fixed the rear.

A body lift will usually void your insurance if its not engineered too i believe

Not true about the bdy lift (in QLD anyway).

I informed my insurance company and it is written into the policy in the modification section. Only limitation stipulated was that it was legal and the local requirment by QLD Transport was 2" maximum.

Not true about the bdy lift (in QLD anyway).

I informed my insurance company and it is written into the policy in the modification section. Only limitation stipulated was that it was legal and the local requirment by QLD Transport was 2" maximum.

remember what insurance company numbnuts "AGREE TO" and whats roadworthy are usually 2 different things.

When push comes to shove, they will say its unroadworthy, and your phukt, no matter what is in the policy. Read the fine print

"Car must be roadworthy, or we accept your yearly donation for no reason".