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I have done a serch and havn't found what i am after...

If i buy the high steer kit what extra do i need to mount it? I know i need a IFS box and mounting kit and a 80series pitman arm, but is there other things i need.. eg- longer/shorter hydraulic lines for the IFS box???

Can any one confirm that you can run high steer without a 1" dropped hanger on the front?

Cheers
Brad

brad 93hilux wrote:I have done a serch and havn't found what i am after...

If i buy the high steer kit what extra do i need to mount it? I know i need a IFS box and mounting kit and a 80series pitman arm, but is there other things i need.. eg- longer/shorter hydraulic lines for the IFS box???

Can any one confirm that you can run high steer without a 1" dropped hanger on the front?

Cheers
Brad

The trail gear high steer kit comes complete with a pitman arm. You wont need to buy the 80 series one if buying the trail gear kit. And yes its possible to run cross over steering with no dropped hanger you just need to make sure you place the steering box in the right position. Your current P/S lines will work fine.

Thanks heaps for that....

Brad

one more question....

Is there any difference between a ifs power steer box from early model to the later models apart from being newer?

Cheers brad

While the question is being asked, is there a difference from 4wd ifs steering box to 2wd steering box?

brad 93hilux wrote:one more question....

Is there any difference between a ifs power steer box from early model to the later models apart from being newer?

Cheers brad

The later ones tend not to leak as bad. And i beleive the lock to lock may be a little shorter as well. If i was looking for one i would by the latest one i could afford.

diby_2000 wrote:While the question is being asked, is there a difference from 4wd ifs steering box to 2wd steering box?

Yes the 2wd box is totaly different. You dont want the 2wd box.

cheers,
Brad

brad 93hilux wrote:one more question....

Is there any difference between a ifs power steer box from early model to the later models apart from being newer?

Cheers brad

some later ones are slighlty longer near were the hydro lines bolt in but not sure if it makes any differance at the rag joint end

4sum4 wrote:

brad 93hilux wrote:one more question....

Is there any difference between a ifs power steer box from early model to the later models apart from being newer?

Cheers brad

some later ones are slighlty longer near were the hydro lines bolt in but not sure if it makes any differance at the rag joint end

Im pretty sure they are still the same length to the rag joint.

But just reminded me of something. If you dont currently have power steering you will also need the shaft from the steering box to the first joint on the steering column to suit your model. Sometimes dep[ending on how far forward you mount the box you will need to lengthen this with a spacer or getting an engineering shop to cut and lengthen it although some states will not pass one with a cut and welded shaft.

i got another question about cross over steering etc,

Ive got it on my new lux, so obvisouly the torque rod gets removed. Do u need some kind or torque rod? Or do they really not matter that much?

BushTuckerNed wrote:i got another question about cross over steering etc,

Ive got it on my new lux, so obvisouly the torque rod gets removed. Do u need some kind or torque rod? Or do they really not matter that much?

It really depends on how soft your springs are. The torque rod was fitted by Toyota to stop brake steering not so much to control axle wrap. If your springs are very soft you may find you need one to stop axle wrap. But i have not seen many set ups that need one. Going to Cross over steering eliminates the brake steering caused by the axle moving rearward under brakes.

RUFF wrote:

BushTuckerNed wrote:i got another question about cross over steering etc,

Ive got it on my new lux, so obvisouly the torque rod gets removed. Do u need some kind or torque rod? Or do they really not matter that much?

It really depends on how soft your springs are. The torque rod was fitted by Toyota to stop brake steering not so much to control axle wrap. If your springs are very soft you may find you need one to stop axle wrap. But i have not seen many set ups that need one. Going to Cross over steering eliminates the brake steering caused by the axle moving rearward under brakes.

is that the same for high steer?

Cheers Brad

brad 93hilux wrote:

RUFF wrote:

BushTuckerNed wrote:i got another question about cross over steering etc,

Ive got it on my new lux, so obvisouly the torque rod gets removed. Do u need some kind or torque rod? Or do they really not matter that much?

It really depends on how soft your springs are. The torque rod was fitted by Toyota to stop brake steering not so much to control axle wrap. If your springs are very soft you may find you need one to stop axle wrap. But i have not seen many set ups that need one. Going to Cross over steering eliminates the brake steering caused by the axle moving rearward under brakes.

is that the same for high steer?

Cheers Brad

High Steer is when you move the drag link from below the springs to above. Generally this also involves going to Cross over steering as well. Where as basic crossover steering can still have the draglink bellow the springs.

Simply- Yes its the same as High Steer as long as you are going cross over at the same time.

Hi steer conversion is when the steering or (ackerman arms) are replaced to move the Tie rod above the springs and put the drag link from the steering box to the lh steering arm East West as to the original North South arrngement. If you keep you leaf spring set up it doesnt change the way springs behave. On the high steer set ups I have seen the steering arm angle in relation to the the rear axle has been change so that toe out on turns is minimalised this good for offroad not so good for onroad.