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Lengthening my Wheelbase. . . .

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:10 pm
by MY45
Ok so i have got a new shorty 40 and i have chucked some 45 rear leaves in the back of it but my problem now is that the extended shackels are now sitting way to flat........What do i do ti get a better angle.

*Note i did not move the mounts to accommodate the longer leaves*

Should I :
A) Spin the rear mounts around therefore gaining about 4 1/2"
B) Lenghthen the shackles
C) Shorten the shackles
D) Any other suggestions


Adam

Re: Lengthening my Wheelbase. . . .

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 6:00 pm
by redzook
MY45 wrote:Ok so i have got a new shorty 40 and i have chucked some 45 rear leaves in the back of it but my problem now is that the extended shackels are now sitting way to flat........What do i do ti get a better angle.

*Note i did not move the mounts to accommodate the longer leaves*

Should I :
A) Spin the rear mounts around therefore gaining about 4 1/2"
B) Lenghthen the shackles
C) Shorten the shackles
D) Any other suggestions


Adam


what do u mean buy A) ???

pics would be good

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:07 pm
by ozy1
im pretty sure by A, he means that remocing the spring and pointing the rear towards the front, as the locating pin isnt in the centre of the arch of the spring, im sure Dan did this mod on his 40 to run the swampers.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:24 am
by redzook
ozy1 wrote:im pretty sure by A, he means that remocing the spring and pointing the rear towards the front, as the locating pin isnt in the centre of the arch of the spring, im sure Dan did this mod on his 40 to run the swampers.


this dosent fix the shackle angle though?

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:29 am
by Shorty40
ozy1 wrote:im pretty sure by A, he means that remocing the spring and pointing the rear towards the front, as the locating pin isnt in the centre of the arch of the spring, im sure Dan did this mod on his 40 to run the swampers.


That will move your diff back a few inches but it wont affect your shackle angle (as the spring remains a constant length)

I think he means tuning the rear upper mount 180 degrees. This will move the mounting point backa few inches.

Adam,

Angle on your shackle is good for down travel. I am not too sure what affect too much angle will have on the way your rig drives (but you will have mad droop :twisted: )

If you want less angle on your shackle just cut your rear mount off and move it back a couple of inches.

You may aswell move the front back a couple of inches aswell for better wheelbase ;) And if you want a couple more inches flip your rear springs (as Ozy1 suggested) - for this you will need to rotate your perches a few degrees or run a wedge to correct your pinion angle)

If you move the front diff forward a bit (do a SR at the same time ;) ) you should be looking at about 100" wheelbase. I am currently at about 101" :armsup:

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:38 am
by MY45
Shorty40 wrote:
ozy1 wrote:im pretty sure by A, he means that remocing the spring and pointing the rear towards the front, as the locating pin isnt in the centre of the arch of the spring, im sure Dan did this mod on his 40 to run the swampers.


That will move your diff back a few inches but it wont affect your shackle angle (as the spring remains a constant length)

I think he means tuning the rear upper mount 180 degrees. This will move the mounting point backa few inches.

Adam,

Angle on your shackle is good for down travel. I am not too sure what affect too much angle will have on the way your rig drives (but you will have mad droop :twisted: )

If you want less angle on your shackle just cut your rear mount off and move it back a couple of inches.

You may aswell move the front back a couple of inches aswell for better wheelbase ;) And if you want a couple more inches flip your rear springs (as Ozy1 suggested) - for this you will need to rotate your perches a few degrees or run a wedge to correct your pinion angle)

If you move the front diff forward a bit (do a SR at the same time ;) ) you should be looking at about 100" wheelbase. I am currently at about 101" :armsup:


Thats what i meant by A)....... I did it yesterday arvo and it fixed the probs, the angle is now more like 65* :D Wheel base is now at 95" with just the rear done :twisted:

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:45 pm
by ozy1
i re read what i posted, and jeeze i was so lost at that time, i had just had one of those moments where i was thinkin something else, but owell....

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:15 pm
by MY45
ozy1 wrote:i re read what i posted, and jeeze i was so lost at that time, i had just had one of those moments where i was thinkin something else, but owell....


:D :lol: :D

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 4:30 pm
by ozy1
so are we gunna see build up piccies anytime soon?

Re: Lengthening my Wheelbase. . . .

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:02 pm
by MQ080
MY45 wrote:Ok so i have got a new shorty 40


I think this is where your problems start... the 45 landed on it's lid, what makes you think this won't happen too a SWB :D

Re: Lengthening my Wheelbase. . . .

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 6:35 am
by MY45
MQ080 wrote:
MY45 wrote:Ok so i have got a new shorty 40


I think this is where your problems start... the 45 landed on it's lid, what makes you think this won't happen too a SWB :D



BETTER BRAKES !!!
:D :?

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 4:20 pm
by buddha
Adam , you getting the steaks ready to cook? ;)

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 5:34 pm
by MY45
:rofl: Yeah, i'll get an extra large one for you :D :armsup:

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 4:23 pm
by MQ080
buddha wrote:Adam , you getting the steaks ready to cook? ;)


As if we won't get another meal from this FJ40 :D

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:09 am
by MY45
MQ080 wrote:
buddha wrote:Adam , you getting the steaks ready to cook? ;)


As if we won't get another meal from this FJ40 :D


:finger: :finger: Shhhh, i dont want 50 people "helping the recovey" just for a free feed . . . :roll: :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 11:24 am
by greg
MY45 wrote:
Shorty40 wrote:If you want less angle on your shackle just cut your rear mount off and move it back a couple of inches.


Thats what i meant by A)....... I did it yesterday arvo and it fixed the probs, the angle is now more like 65* :D Wheel base is now at 95" with just the rear done :twisted:


I thought you could have taken the opportunity to 3/4 the back - that way you could put the shackle back as far as is required, gain the extra wheel base, and a stack more droop too. :cool:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:01 pm
by MY45
Was thinking about it but just wanted to go wheeling :D Ill get some pics up soon :cool:

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 1:04 pm
by spazbot
sell both sets of diffs you have now, buy the 60 series diffs that are up in the 4 sale section, give a nice wide track

Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 7:17 pm
by ZOOK60
no good bying them diffs cause there in my garage and they got suzuki written all over