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load springs out and what a difference it makes

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:45 pm
by short stuff
i took my load springs out of my suzi this morning and went for a drive the places where i usally need a run up i just crawled through without a hassle no wheel spin at all so yea it does work a treat
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Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:54 pm
by Pyrotech
so what is it that your actually saying? more info

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 6:54 pm
by mrw82
he's saying he took the load leaf out of the springs and is very impressed with the increased performance.

im thinking of doing this to the rear of my LWB zook and fit 2" extended shackles to make up for any sag when loaded up. i have 2" EFS springs and they are very stiff.

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:23 pm
by St Jimmy
mrw82 wrote:he's saying he took the load leaf out of the springs and is very impressed with the increased performance.

im thinking of doing this to the rear of my LWB zook and fit 2" extended shackles to make up for any sag when loaded up. i have 2" EFS springs and they are very stiff.
My EFS springs are 2yrs old and are as hard as the day i put them in so let me know how it works out ,Boner

Posted: Fri Mar 21, 2008 7:29 pm
by short stuff
ill see how long they go before they start bending

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:02 pm
by CairnsZook
I pulled the 2nd leaf from the bottom out of my rears today. I don't think it made much of a difference. Although I didn't try to flex her up or anything, and I haven't touched the front yet. There are still 4 leaves left, maybe I need to remove the bottom one as well.

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:24 pm
by get it up there
I've very recently removed the overload springs in the rear, and in the front i removed the 3rd from the top (which was the 2nd from the bottom) At the same time, i also disconnected the spring retainers (think thats what their called). I was very, very happy with the result, got more flex, and a-lot softer. I put a winch on 2 weeks ago, and had to put the leafs back in the front.. sagged it down to much!! :cry:

Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:34 pm
by CairnsZook
My rear pack did have 5 leaves (now 4), is the overload spring the very bottom one, with the bolted retainer? I also opened up the other retainer straps.

Here is the front pack as it stands now. I'll do the same to it tomorrow.
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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:18 am
by GRPABT1
I run 3 leaves in the front and 4 in the back (I would run 3 in the rear too if I never carried loads) and I find it works well offroad. Body rolls a bitch round corners on road though but I can live with that.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:03 pm
by error
Ok, so how do you guys go towing loads with out your loadsprings?
I tend to over load mine a little bit, last time 800kg + 150kg trailer,
not bad for a car rated at 450kg..

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:04 pm
by get it up there
CairnsZook wrote: is the overload spring the very bottom one, with the bolted retainer? I also opened up the other retainer straps.
Yup yup.. thats the one. You have the same set up as what i had.. in your case (someone please correct me if im wrong!!) i would be removing that overload spring, and then once the o/load spring is out, then remove the third from the top. If your planning on getting a winch, only remove the o/load one.. made a big difference to mine :)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:18 pm
by CairnsZook
OK, the front end is pretty sweet now. I took out the 2nd from the bottom and she rides A LOT smoother! Front flexes reasonably well too (well more than it did anyway).

In the rear end, replaced the 2nd from the bottom, and removed the very bottom leaf. It is not flexing as well as the front, ie. wheel not tucking up under the guard. I will probably remove the 2nd from bottom as well.

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Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:40 pm
by get it up there
nice looking zook mate!! Good to hear you've got the front end heaps better!! :) When that pic was taken, the rear wasnt hitting on the bump stops was it??

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 5:48 pm
by CairnsZook
The front reaches the bump stops, but the rear is still about 40-50mm away.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:02 pm
by get it up there
bugga!! Like you said.. remove another one.. then you'll have the same set up as myself, GRPABT1, and plenty others.. and that set up seems to work pretty bloody good!! Your in Launy to are you? Should go out for a play sometime!!

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:48 pm
by alien
having the load leaf in my lux springs raises the zuk about 2" and makes it ride like crap =P with the load leaf out it rides like a zuk again and flexes like mad!

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:26 pm
by keatings
my zook (85 swb) is hard as a rock. should I try taking out the bottom leaf on each set? How hard is it to do.

Sorry for butting in by the way.

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:28 pm
by get it up there
keatings wrote:my zook (85 swb) is hard as a rock. should I try taking out the bottom leaf on each set? How hard is it to do.

Sorry for butting in by the way.
Depends on if you still have overload springs in there or not.. start with the o/load springs.. then if you still arent happy... do what CairnsZook is about to do :)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:44 pm
by keatings
i'll give it a go and let u know. Just to confirm the load spring is the very bottom one yes? Does this have any other ramifications? IE: poor handling on road or saferty concerns. ( kids in car most of time)

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:58 pm
by get it up there
keatings wrote:i'll give it a go and let u know. Just to confirm the load spring is the very bottom one yes? Does this have any other ramifications? IE: poor handling on road or saferty concerns. ( kids in car most of time)
Yuppers.. the very bottom one, which will be short, and thicker than the others. Have a look at the 2nd pic that CairnsZook put up.. you will see it there. To my believing, (and what i found with mine) it rolls a bit more around corners, softer to ride in, fexs more, but you wont be able to carry as much weight, so it's going to be a try/trial thing i guess. I've never heard of it having any safety concerns.. but im not an expert!! hehe

Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 9:06 pm
by short stuff
i have a problem now where i cant take a third person the bump stops hit so another reason not to take three and tell them to get a 4by