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TD42 compression results - too high???
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:44 pm
by Mark2
Last night I used my new ebay diesel compression tester for the first time. I used the adaptor for the glow plug fittings - easier than removing injectors.
I got results on the TD42 of between 430 and 480 psi. This seems to be higher than maximum the figures specified in the manual?? Could it be due to carbon in the combustion chambers? Anyone else tested a TD42 recently?
My 'procedure' involved cranking the engine until untill the guage woudnt climb any higher - maybe 6-8 revolutions?? (maybe more). This is how I've previously done it on petrol engines, is it any different for a diesel?
Re: TD42 compression results - too high???
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:52 pm
by bogged
Mark2 wrote:Last night I used my new ebay diesel compression tester for the first time. I used the adaptor for the glow plug fittings - easier than removing injectors.
I got results on the TD42 of between 430 and 480 psi. This seems to be higher than maximum the figures specified in the manual?? Could it be due to carbon in the combustion chambers? Anyone else tested a TD42 recently?
My 'procedure' involved cranking the engine until untill the guage woudnt climb any higher - maybe 6-8 revolutions?? (maybe more). This is how I've previously done it on petrol engines, is it any different for a diesel?
dont know the answer, but how do you stop it from starting? mine starts after 2 turns.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:00 pm
by InSanE
check your valve clearances mate they may be to tight.
Re: TD42 compression results - too high???
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:04 pm
by MyGQ
bogged wrote:dont know the answer, but how do you stop it from starting? mine starts after 2 turns.
to stop it from starting, you pull the power plug from the diesel pump, this keeps the diesel cut solinoid in the off positions and prevents it from getting fuel, thus no fuel gets injected into the engine, its the same way the engine gets turned off by the key
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:29 pm
by Mark2
InSanE wrote:check your valve clearances mate they may be to tight.
Been meaning to check the valve clearances for a while.....
I'm not trying to be smart but how would tight valves cause the compression to be too high? If they were super tight, the valves wouldnt close properly right? so compression would be low? Not saying you're wrong, but I want to understand this.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:26 pm
by marko
Mark2 wrote:InSanE wrote:check your valve clearances mate they may be to tight.
Been meaning to check the valve clearances for a while.....
I'm not trying to be smart but how would tight valves cause the compression to be too high? If they were super tight, the valves wouldnt close properly right? so compression would be low? Not saying you're wrong, but I want to understand this.
Your right, tight valve clearace will give low figures. How much higher than spec is it. Did you get the eng to operating temp fisrt?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 9:34 pm
by Mark2
marko wrote:Mark2 wrote:InSanE wrote:check your valve clearances mate they may be to tight.
Been meaning to check the valve clearances for a while.....
I'm not trying to be smart but how would tight valves cause the compression to be too high? If they were super tight, the valves wouldnt close properly right? so compression would be low? Not saying you're wrong, but I want to understand this.
Your right, tight valve clearace will give low figures. How much higher than spec is it. Did you get the eng to operating temp fisrt?
I think it was about 50 PSI over spec. Engine was barely warm. So not at operating temp - but this would usually give a lower result in my experience.
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:00 pm
by ausoops
can you compare your results using your tester to someone elses? if its an ebay job it may be out of calibration.
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 1:21 pm
by Dzltec
Mark 2, the figures are ok. Did you do it with the stop solenoid disconnected? If it was done with fuel in it it will be higher.
What problem are you chasing? The guage may also be slightly inaccurate.
Andy
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:26 pm
by Mark2
Dzltec wrote:Mark 2, the figures are ok. Did you do it with the stop solenoid disconnected? If it was done with fuel in it it will be higher.
What problem are you chasing? The guage may also be slightly inaccurate.
Andy
Its a 2nd hand engine I've bought to replace an overheated engine - I just wanted to make sure it was OK before fitting it and swapping the turbo etc over (should have tested it before buying it I suppose). I tested it with the plug to the fuel pump disconnected. Sounds like theres not too much too worry about (something I'm good at)
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:01 pm
by Yom
As long as the results are even and no major fluctuations then its ok.
Re: TD42 compression results - too high???
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:07 am
by bogged
MyGQ wrote:bogged wrote:dont know the answer, but how do you stop it from starting? mine starts after 2 turns.
to stop it from starting, you pull the power plug from the diesel pump, this keeps the diesel cut solinoid in the off positions and prevents it from getting fuel, thus no fuel gets injected into the engine, its the same way the engine gets turned off by the key
So this is your Kill Switch in a diesel then?
Re: TD42 compression results - too high???
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:25 pm
by twodiffs
bogged wrote:MyGQ wrote:bogged wrote:dont know the answer, but how do you stop it from starting? mine starts after 2 turns.
to stop it from starting, you pull the power plug from the diesel pump, this keeps the diesel cut solinoid in the off positions and prevents it from getting fuel, thus no fuel gets injected into the engine, its the same way the engine gets turned off by the key
So this is your Kill Switch in a diesel then?
yep - thats one way bogged, the engine just turns over and doesn't fire...but ahem..enough of that on the net
Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:26 pm
by Wrench_Pilot_86
you have any information on the 2nd hand engine's past cause it might of had a freshen up before you got it, also when i have done comp checks at work the tester is fitted into the injector hole rather than the glow plug one, (being Toyo's the a bit different)
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 6:44 am
by Mark2
Wrench_Pilot_86 wrote:you have any information on the 2nd hand engine's past cause it might of had a freshen up before you got it, also when i have done comp checks at work the tester is fitted into the injector hole rather than the glow plug one, (being Toyo's the a bit different)
It was a while ago now but its been running well since - no idea on the past history. Hasnt used any oil/water in 5000k's. Still have to get it dyno turned as the pump timing was a bit of a guess when I swapped the aneroid pump over.
Glow plug's on a TD42 are a lot easier to remove than injectors, dont know if this changes the compression readings - wouldnt think it would.
My procedure was disconnect fuel solenoid, remove all glow plugs, crank till max reading achieved, cant remember how many turns this took, not that many I think.
Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:19 pm
by A.J.
Hey Mark2 where are you mate? If you are in Sydney, I'd come over with my TD42 to cross-reference. I want to check the compression anayway before I put on the turbo