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rover 3.9 v8 into 40 series

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:41 am
by Hardzy
does anyone know where i can pick up a wiring loom for this motor? iv got the motor box and transfer out of a disco without the wiring loom. has anyone done a conversion with these motors into any other truck?

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:17 am
by bigbad
Ebay.uk, one went with a computer this morning for 35GBP.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:31 am
by armbrup
I have seen one in a Holden HQ ute.
You will have to take out half the front springs on an FJ40 LOL
Regards Philip A

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:01 am
by WICKED
Ebay or a wrecker would be ya best bet!

I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!

My thought's, Cut ya lost here and buy a decent motor.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:39 pm
by armbrup
There are guys who have a business of developing looms for custom ECU setups. Google it.
Do you have the ECU?
If not you may be better going aftermarket such as Adaptronic, Autronic, Wolf etc.
If you have the ECU, the wreckers may be the best bet.
To run a 14CUX you will also need a VSS which the aftermarket fitters can organise.
Regards Philip A

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:42 pm
by cloughy
armbrup wrote:There are guys who have a business of developing looms for custom ECU setups. Google it.
Do you have the ECU?
If not you may be better going aftermarket such as Adaptronic, Autronic, Wolf etc.
If you have the ECU, the wreckers may be the best bet.
To run a 14CUX you will also need a VSS which the aftermarket fitters can organise.
Regards Philip A
I'm running that blown 3.9 without VSS, seems ok

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:10 pm
by Loanrangie
Just run an aftermarket ecu.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:36 pm
by armbrup
Without a VSS you do not get override injector cutoff over 1500RPM, and no stepper up on slowing to a stop.
But should not have other effects other than errors codes in the ECU.
Regards Philip A

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:07 pm
by RUFF
WICKED wrote:I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!
Actually it runs much better than your bucket of crap. And prob has twice the HP. You havent seen it lately have you :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:37 pm
by WICKED
RUFF wrote:
WICKED wrote:I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!
Actually it runs much better than your bucket of crap. And prob has twice the HP. You havent seen it lately have you :roll:
Shame about the rest of the 'car' then....

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:38 pm
by RUFF
WICKED wrote:
RUFF wrote:
WICKED wrote:I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!
Actually it runs much better than your bucket of crap. And prob has twice the HP. You havent seen it lately have you :roll:
Shame about the rest of the 'car' then....
Glasshouses and shit :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:04 pm
by bubs
WICKED wrote:
RUFF wrote:
WICKED wrote:I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!
Actually it runs much better than your bucket of crap. And prob has twice the HP. You havent seen it lately have you :roll:
Shame about the rest of the 'car' then....
I really hope you dont wonder why you annoy so many people :bad-words:

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:06 pm
by bubs
RUFF wrote:
WICKED wrote:I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!
Actually it runs much better than your bucket of crap. And prob has twice the HP. You havent seen it lately have you :roll:
Yes it is running well now :cool:

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:37 pm
by STIKA
WICKED wrote:Ebay or a wrecker would be ya best bet!

I seen 1.
Run's like a bucket of poo!

My thought's, Cut ya lost here and buy a decent motor.
Thanks for you vote of confidence Ben.


I will check with you prior to any future modificatons, just to check i have it right :roll:

I am not sure how i come this far in life whitout you wealth of knowledge to guide me.

Re: rover 3.9 v8 into 40 series

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:19 pm
by STIKA
Hardzy wrote:does anyone know where i can pick up a wiring loom for this motor? iv got the motor box and transfer out of a disco without the wiring loom. has anyone done a conversion with these motors into any other truck?

I have completed this modification in a FJ 45 troop carrier, for the first couple of years I ran the standard carbies with no major problems.

Prior to Tuff Truck 2007 I had the carbies rebuilt and the car ran heaps better but it still didn't sound 100% right we alter found out this was in the distributor and we were unable to find one to replace (for some reason it has a different oil pump setup)so we persevered with what we had.

The only time the car has let me down is in the water at TT06 & TT07, which we rectified this year.

This was rectified fitting EFI this system is a bit of a mixed and matched system . The computer is a microteh running a redundant spark system, using 2 x Hyundai coil packs (mounted in the cabin) and the crank angle sensor from a late model Ford. The rover inlet manifold has had a Ford throttle body and TPS grafted onto it.

This was then all tunned on the Dyno and produced 118hp at he rear wheels and tractive force of 1910 foot/pounds these measurements were all recorded on 35’ tyres

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:39 pm
by STIKA
When we mounted the motor and gear box all I was trying to achieve was to mount the engine as far back as possible and have all of the transmission mounted above the chassis rails so I could run a flat belly plate. This meant that the motor was mounted a little higher than normal but nowhere near as high as the old Toyota motor.

In the end I think the front end was lighter by about 200kgs which has made the car climb heaps better.

The flat belly pan makes it easer to slide over ledges and other obstacles with nothing to hang up on. It worked that well that Wicked’s brother has tried to achieve the same thing.

Overall I am extremely happy with the motor, if I wasn’t; I would have changed it before we installed the mog diffs.

PS I do have a Lexus motor, but I will be staying with the rover just to prove a point, you never know I may just have to install a couple of Turbo’s

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:47 am
by Sprover
G'day Stika.Do you have any pics at all of your truck with the Rover motor in it? :D Sounds like you have done some nice work.The twin turbos would be great.I've got a single turbo conversion im running on a Rover motor and the torque is unbelievable.
Cheers

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:04 pm
by STIKA
I will try and get a few.

what size turbo are you running?

and do you have any figures of what increases you got?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:36 pm
by def90
don't want to supercharge it?

Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:59 pm
by STIKA
def90 wrote:don't want to supercharge it?

was going to

but i have been offer 2 turbos and there is another 2 spare one sitting there for spares

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:54 am
by def90
ahh sweet, will be interesting to see how she goes :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:46 pm
by STIKA
def90 wrote:ahh sweet, will be interesting to see how she goes :twisted: :twisted:

it be only a dream for a while it will depend on the $$$ flow later in the year. the misus wont let me spend the baby bonus on it :roll:

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:11 pm
by STIKA
Photo of motor

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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:36 pm
by def90
it be only a dream for a while it will depend on the $$$ flow later in the year. the misus wont let me spend the baby bonus on it :roll:[/quote]

just have another one then :D :D

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:54 pm
by Sprover
G'day Stika.Im running a T04 Garret turbo which runs straight gas through a Gas Research Throttle body.It made 156 kw at the wheels with a huge amount of low down torque.Its not actually in a 4wd but a Rover 3500 SD1.Its only running low boost 5-9 psi with no intercooler and makes full boost by 1800rpm :D The motor itself is very restricted by the old style plenum and draw through set up.When i get some cash i think some injection,intercooler and after market computer will be the way to go :twisted: If only it was now :cry:
Cheers
Chris

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:57 pm
by STIKA
On the left hand side is the sealed aluminium box the ECU and coil triggers are monuted in

To the right is the bottom set of coils

In the bottom you can see the steel fuel line that have been run through the cab to asist with protection

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This photo is looking up under the dash

The ECU controls the 2 fuel pumps and thermo fans, each of these have isolation switches .

All of the switches in the car have the relay and fuse mounted directly below the switch. The fuel pumps and thermo are also fitted with circuit breakers (mounted directly below the switch) that can be manually reset, this can all be accessed from the drivers seat

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