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hey everyone, im looking into putting my patrol to strait gas turbo and just wandering what other things i will need, here is the list of stuff i have priced so far
turbo garret t35 brand new roller bearing turbo
the manifold to suit
dump pipe to tip 3 inch excaust
oil lines
air box
gas research
all the plumbing

have i missed anything else as im not really that cluey on this stuff
cheers for ya time

Probably electronic ignition

probably want to intercool it aswell...

Internal or external wastegate?

heavy duty clutch .........

bagsy wrote:heavy duty clutch .........

Shit yeah. And spend some time going over your driveline (unis/shafts/diffs). Maybe check over your brakes too!!!

Coxy

All the above and lock up the distributor mechanical advance.

Joel

I already have a safari tuff clutch (heavy duty) that i recently put in, im new to this turbo stuff, if i run a cooler it will most likely be top mount, what will be the pros and cons of a intercooler?

No bad side really, except the extra plumbing and cost, and the fact that it could possibly get a leak/puncture (and a small bit of pressure drop, and a bit more lag). If you're a fairly well organised person, you'll carry enough spares to bypass the intercooler and get you out of the shit if it ever happens.

Intercoolers are fully sic bro.

Coxy

im doing the same to mine when you say gas research you will need the throttle body and adapter you can buy from the for about 130 to bolt straight onto your manifold and a better gas converter such as the B2 Converter and you should intercool it and the BOV. gotta make the ppshhh sound. I'v been advised to run about 8psi and not more than 12 on a standard motor, so ima run 8 constant, im mounting the cooler on the front gonna make room for it.

yeh i have everything sorted just gotta mount dual gas tanks in it and do it properly so i can get the goverment rebate for the gas as my car is registered as a diesel, yeh i have been told 8 psi for the standard engine also, the gas research is all getting done and fitted by smithys in bayswater and thats with everything i will need for the turbo to run at its best, i dont want the bov i would rather just the intercooler fluter i think it sounds heaps better lol..and i was gonna run the cooler in the front also, still tossing up with the idea as i have pulled my car apart for paint and to make a tube tray so thinking of a rear mounted radiator, not to sure yet still tossing up with a few ideas

Hey KYSI,

what do u think this set up will cost once u have finished it? I am thinking of doing the same....

cheers

Daniel

around 7-9 grand im betting. and thats iff his motor holds up

2nded, do not ever underbudget on a turbo, as it will be half assed and end up costing twice as much in the long run, i want to do mine within the next year and a half and i think i will need approx 5g to purchase all the parts i need, then another 2g for tuning etc and then 1g spare for problems along the way

to buy everything all bits and pieces is costing 2g's in parts excluding turbo but once you think you have done everything then there is the ignition and once ive fitted everything tak to a gas for turning. so far i'll be spending bout 3g's.

i agree cookie monster. your airbox could be between 500-900
turbo 1-3 grand
gas research =1100
tuning 180-250
intercooler-400-550
oil line- 50+
+ other bigs and pieces. it add's up over time

and if you shit a motor theres 1000-1500 to rebuild

regards adam

TR3LOS351 wrote:to buy everything all bits and pieces is costing 2g's in parts excluding turbo but once you think you have done everything then there is the ignition and once ive fitted everything tak to a gas for turning. so far i'll be spending bout 3g's.

so far weve spent 6k on our turbo set up +

If you want more info

sign up here, http://forum.mudrhino.com.au/

Theres a fair few straight gas turbo cars on here, petrol ones too

Cheers

the price list goes as such
gas research $1800 supllied and fitted....(goverment rebate so i get it back)
turbo set up $5500 which includes an air to water intercooler
$600 fitting and tuning
as i know sweet fark all about turbos and such im getting axt in dandenong to fit it all
and i will allow an extra grand for problems im thinking
i already have the air box sitting here so no charge for that
plus 750 for an excaust system which 3'' and thats the dump pipe to the tip

Dont worry about the money man, just do it. Mine blows away most cars at the lights and every time i remind myself that its money well spent. whats this 8 psi shit though? do you only want half the fun ???????

what work would i have to do to the engine to get it running more boost?, my car will rarely be at any lights as its just my toy and only really use it in the bush, i want power but not so much that it gets useless in the bush

KYSI wrote:the price list goes as such
gas research $1800 supllied and fitted....(goverment rebate so i get it back)
turbo set up $5500 which includes an air to water intercooler
$600 fitting and tuning
as i know sweet fark all about turbos and such im getting axt in dandenong to fit it all
and i will allow an extra grand for problems im thinking
i already have the air box sitting here so no charge for that
plus 750 for an excaust system which 3'' and thats the dump pipe to the tip

that sounds pritty Good mate

cheers mate hopefully i will have it done in a couple months would be keen to take it out with some other nice trucks

i quiet happy to take photo's next week. doin a real basic turbo set up. if you photos i can take some btw its a rb30. we have 2-3 turbo petrols that come out with us. would be keen to do a turbo petty meet

yeh would def be good fun, my mates doing a turbo gas at the moment to, hopefully we start taking over the world

KYSI wrote:yeh would def be good fun, my mates doing a turbo gas at the moment to, hopefully we start taking over the world

yup thats it

8 psi is ok but you'll want more . speak to the right people and these motors will handle 30psi and more depend on $$$$. i ran 30 pnd for 3 years and never missed a beat. went well plenty strong and not much lag.

gqpete wrote:8 psi is ok but you'll want more . speak to the right people and these motors will handle 30psi and more depend on $$$$. i ran 30 pnd for 3 years and never missed a beat. went well plenty strong and not much lag.

on a rebuilt motor though pete? his isnt rebuilt

a turbo tb42 with an intercooler will take 12 to 15 psi no worries as long as the tune is spot on, bigger valve springs and it has a good ignition

will need a second gas converter as well as high flowing the tank

the tune is the most important thing if u want it to last, i know Jole at PGS is very good with gas reserch, there is quite a art to it.

What turbo would you guys use?

A 1.06 3540 would be really laggy wouldnt it? It was on my old turbo EB falcon.