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4" suspension lift 4.4 2 dr rangie

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 6:55 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
Hi im wanting to lift my rangie 4" but im struggling to find anyone that does any higher than a 2". Does anyone know if anyone does a kit or anyone know what else will fit my aim is 35's but need more travel

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:18 am
by HSV Rangie
35s will fit with.

50mm body lift.
50-60mm spring lift.

LRA or similar flare kit.

Michael.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:26 am
by Ye Olde Rangie
im trying to make the body lift one of the last things as a few people have told me to stay clear through to cracking the body and stuff

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:47 pm
by Aquarangie
funny everyone seesm to have an opinion on this, some say yes and some say no. I personally don't like spring lifts too tall so I would choose the body lift option.

The LRA kit is good but $$$, but like most his stuff you know you'll get a comprehensive body lift kit out of it :D

Trav

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:37 am
by Disco1Modified
I suspect that if you choose to lift the body 4" that you will run into other problems like:
1.The steering column shaft will need to be replaced with a longer unit - You can just get away with a 2 1/2" lift and keep the original steering components.
2. Lengthened seat belt anchors.
3. not sure how your fan/radiator and hoses will line up for airflow etc
4. anything else mounted to the body but connected by hose or wire to something on the drive chain/engine/gearbox/transfer case - you can usually get away with about 50mm of stretch but 100 is a LOT.
5. check things like the 'throw' of your gear lever and transfer lever. They will sink 4" down into the floor. You can extend them but when you go to use them they will need a bigger hole to move about in.

I'd suggest the 50mm spring lift and 65mm body lift.

You'll also find people that swear by 4" taller springs and NO body lift.

Good luck

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:31 am
by cloughy
Disco1Modified wrote:I suspect that if you choose to lift the body 4" that you will run into other problems like:
1.The steering column shaft will need to be replaced with a longer unit - You can just get away with a 2 1/2" lift and keep the original steering components.
2. Lengthened seat belt anchors.
3. not sure how your fan/radiator and hoses will line up for airflow etc
4. anything else mounted to the body but connected by hose or wire to something on the drive chain/engine/gearbox/transfer case - you can usually get away with about 50mm of stretch but 100 is a LOT.
5. check things like the 'throw' of your gear lever and transfer lever. They will sink 4" down into the floor. You can extend them but when you go to use them they will need a bigger hole to move about in.

I'd suggest the 50mm spring lift and 65mm body lift.

You'll also find people that swear by 4" taller springs and NO body lift.

Good luck
He means 4" suspension Ralph ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:41 am
by Disco1Modified
I see .......
thanks for clarifying that. Maybe someone else will find what I said useful then.

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:21 pm
by GRIMACE
I sweared by my 4" springs.

But I also swear by the 2+2 and cut :D

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:56 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
yeah the springs are on order from work so just gotta get my braided hoses made for the brakes and modify my existing shock mounts, should be easy enough we did it to a disco with 3" lift soon to be 4" and then turn it into a comp truck you dont see too many of them

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:24 pm
by Slunnie
Do you have any pics of the Disco?

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:38 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
not on here ill try and get him to add some on it looks nuts not too good looking in the garage tho with no heads on it

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:40 pm
by r0880
Be throwing some 35s on mine shortly as well, have lined up 2" spring and 2" body lift, but does anyone have any pics of how this looks and also if cutting is helpful, how much to cut?

Be needing some flares also where would one find what is available for range rover classic 4 door?

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:41 am
by Disco1Modified
here's one I prepared earlier ....

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/members-rides ... e-joy.html

I know mine is a disco and you're talking Rangie's but it may give you an idea of what is involved

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:21 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
ill get some pics of this disco on soon it looks pretty good we imported the flares ourselves and bonnet pod just gotta get it running and then the stripping starts for the cage and 36's. But any one running 4"springs on a rangie do you have to use spring relocators or trap them to the body??

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:32 pm
by GRIMACE
Ye Olde Rangie wrote:ill get some pics of this disco on soon it looks pretty good we imported the flares ourselves and bonnet pod just gotta get it running and then the stripping starts for the cage and 36's. But any one running 4"springs on a rangie do you have to use spring relocators or trap them to the body??
I'd reccomend retaining springs, upper and lower, front and rear.

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:29 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
yeah i think the rear is done as stock but ill have to make up some plates for the rears ill just try and limit the front thru shock length

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:21 am
by prosper
just a little photo of my range rover without retainers...

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springs are Bearmarch and shocks ES9000 longest and I put a bodylift of 3" tyres are Maxxis Mudzilla 37/13,5/15 :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:21 am
by GRIMACE
nice flex, but IMO it's way un balanced front to rear ;)

:cool: Looking rangie buddy :armsup:

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:13 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
yeah heaps of travel but the springs never go back where they should i only jack my car up and the spring moves surely you have to use spring relocaters

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:49 pm
by def90
hy prosper,

the front axle looks pretty level there, any pics of the front flex?

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 5:23 pm
by V8 Rangie
Bloody hell thats some flex! wonder how you go with shockies?

Im in a pickle to find suitable rear shocks for mine.. think I need extended mounts (anyone know where to get them) broke a shock the other day as think it compressed too much :?

Cheers

Camo

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:10 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
cant you get rear shocks off of a gu or gq theyre much longer? if your still running rangie shocks you can buy fitting kits to convert the adaptors

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:36 pm
by Reddo
WTF why would you need that amount of rear or front travel? Looks speccy but I wonder about stability on side slopes etc. Diff locks may be a better option......amazing achievement though - reminds me of cranky's cruiser:)

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:23 pm
by prosper
GRIMACE wrote:nice flex, but IMO it's way un balanced front to rear ;)

:cool: Looking rangie buddy :armsup:
It's true but the front axle give me stability
Ye Olde Rangie wrote:yeah heaps of travel but the springs never go back where they should i only jack my car up and the spring moves surely you have to use spring relocaters
I'm using made home relocators and I never had problem for the moment
wait and see ;)
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def90 wrote:hy prosper,

the front axle looks pretty level there, any pics of the front flex?

sorry for the poor quality.....mobile photo....with my winter tyres :lol: :lol: 38,5/11,5/15

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V8 Rangie wrote:Bloody hell thats some flex! wonder how you go with shockies?

Im in a pickle to find suitable rear shocks for mine.. think I need extended mounts (anyone know where to get them) broke a shock the other day as think it compressed too much :?

Cheers

Camo
still home made...but without a big body lift you can't do that...
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Ye Olde Rangie wrote:cant you get rear shocks off of a gu or gq theyre much longer? if your still running rangie shocks you can buy fitting kits to convert the adaptors
GQ or GU shocks are smaller than range shocks
+2" GQ are the same of original range shocks
Reddo wrote:WTF why would you need that amount of rear or front travel? Looks speccy but I wonder about stability on side slopes etc. Diff locks may be a better option......amazing achievement though - reminds me of cranky's cruiser:)
I'm using GQ axle on my range, so I have the rear diff lock ;)

and front axle help me in slide slopes

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:34 pm
by awright
My GQ rears (kones) are the same travel as the much hyped Bilstein LRA super flexy extended shocks.

And I can gain an extra 20mm by taking out the internal bump stops...

ie there is no way that GQ rears are shorter than Rangie although the fronts are- that's why you use 80 series toyota shocks in the front! :)

Re: 4" suspension lift 4.4 2 dr rangie

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:08 pm
by Suspension Stuff
Ye Olde Rangie wrote:Hi im wanting to lift my rangie 4" but im struggling to find anyone that does any higher than a 2". Does anyone know if anyone does a kit or anyone know what else will fit my aim is 35's but need more travel
Hi
I sell high flex coils to suit a 4" lift. I usually keep them in stock, I am waiting on Dobinsons to make up some more for me. Just email me if you are interested. Price is $350 for set of 4. I also have longer shocks.

Shane.

Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:42 pm
by Ye Olde Rangie
well im pretty sure the patrol shocks are longer but either way there is a wider selection of shocks for nissans ie 6" packages are not available for much else. Im not too interested in that sort of travel but still dont like dislodged springs.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:23 am
by GRIMACE
prosper - I assume you have ES9000 16" travel shocks in the rear?

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:16 pm
by kitacooch
plenty people happily run relocators succesfully, and a 2nd hand front shock mount out of a landy cuts down to make the perfect spring relocator.
I agree that you leave the body lift til last, i find i am still finding my way with the stability without a body lift but am seeing that i need one also to get the clearance inside my guards. But know of many running 4" spring lift hasppily without the body lift but have modified their guars inside and out.
I currently have 2" spring lift and full guard cut with flare rubber from clark rubber to make the flares, and run 35's, as mantioned i do have problems with the tyres rubbing inside the guards under extreme flex, i could fit bigger biump stops but then loose bit of flex, could fit body lift but loos bit of stability or could cut and modify the inner of the guards.

Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 5:01 pm
by prosper
GRIMACE wrote:prosper - I assume you have ES9000 16" travel shocks in the rear?
yes !!! ;)