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GU patrol suspension set ups
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 5:14 pm
by Robo's nissan
just wondering who does best suspension set up for a GU Patrol
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:15 am
by roverrat
wanna narrow that question down a little mate? ... ie intended purpose.
Re: GU patrol suspension set ups
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:11 am
by lay80n
Robo's nissan wrote:just wondering who does best suspension set up for a GU Patrol
Nissan
Layto....
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:54 am
by JOHNZ
Mate it depends what you want & how much you want to spend.
prices can vary $750 up to $3000
Cheers
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:59 am
by j-top paj
what exactly are you after? rockcrawler? tourer? etc...
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 1:26 pm
by ats4x4dotcom
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:25 pm
by Robo's nissan
Thanks guys looking at something about 5in
Willing to spend up to $3000 I want it mainly for 4WD purpose from beginner to extreme tracks like Landcruiser park.
Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:07 pm
by roverrat
righto 5" 4wd on gu ... many here will tell you 3-4" is enough on a GU.
However 5"
King springs (I run dobinsons)
drop boxes (dont run castor plates like i did they are a half arsed attempt to correct castor) (superior)
3rd or superior arms (doesn't really matter imo both as good as each other)
dc for front drive shaft (you will prob get vibes with hubs locked (this seems to depend from nissan to nissan though)
shocks (dobinsons efs tough dog fox take your pick) I run dobinsons and haven't had an issue in nearly 3 years.
sway bar or no sway bar (I run no sway bars on mine)
this will go close to 3K
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:53 am
by j-top paj
roverrat wrote:righto 5" 4wd on gu ... many here will tell you 3-4" is enough on a GU.
il be the first to say 3-4" is enough
but you can go 5-6" if you need to compensate for something

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:54 am
by j-top paj
how much is that setup worth? also how high? 6"?
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:26 am
by roverrat
Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:06 pm
by currentlyoffline
how much is that setup worth?
The setup with the Triple Bypass Fox Shock custom installed by ATS is somewhere in the order of $8-9K
If you have a wagon, the rear shocks enter into the cabin area, so you have to cut the floor in two places.
Pretty full on
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:54 pm
by Suspension Stuff
Hi Robo
If you are after decent flex with your 5" lift then I am your best bet. That is Suspension Stuff. A link to my web site is below.
Using other people's coil designs plus developing some myself I am able to select the best high flex coils to suit your application and accessories.
As others have said it does depend on what you want to do and how you want to do it. If you have $3000 to spend on suspension then budget isn't the problem.
For the 5" lift rear I use 8" lift shocks without the coils falling out. You will have to raise your bump stops to accomodate this. There is no write up about these on my web site yet but you can see all my other prices and the prices are the same as the regular coils for high flex coils. I will do the write up probably early May.
If you want flex up front then you could consider Superiors Superflex arms. I have developed high flex coils to suit these Superflex arms. Again, if you have a winch I will select a different set of coils to suit.
I have write ups on all the other bits that you may or may not want. Just check out the Kit section on my web site.
I keep everything needed for this lift in stock and for any other lift for a Patrol. (However I have another couple of pallets of coils arriving in a week before I am fully stocked)
Cheers
Shane
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:54 pm
by bogged
j-top paj wrote:how much is that setup worth? also how high? 6"?
last thread it was in was round $9000
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:08 pm
by bogged
j-top paj wrote:il be the first to say 3-4" is enough
agree 2000%.
There was a GU with us on weekend with... SEVEN inch suspension PLUS 2in body, with 35inch Maxxis on it.. they looked like 29s... He could fit 40's on it and laugh.
you can fit 36s with 3inch lift.
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:16 am
by sudso
Mate if you want tall coils that will still carry heavy loads and not sag I've found the Tough Dogs to be the heaviest duty big coils around.
They will still allow your rig to flex well too but flex is more to do with suspension arm geometry more so than spring rate.
Patrol rears flex fine but the fronts are limited in standard set up.
Drop boxes are better than drop arms or castor plates because you can keep the standard radius arms and they keep the radius arms inline with the front axle making it easier to roll up and over obstacles and also reduces the tendency for the front axle to try and "roll" under hard braking thus extending the life of your bushes.
Cheapest way to pretty much double your front flex is an X link and your front sway bar can still be used on road with extended sway bar links to suit your lift.
5" lift is pretty high for a GU, they are already 2" higher than a std GQ.
Quite often, more lift means less flex and wheel travel unless you address the geometry.
cheers, sudso
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:28 am
by oondy
PM Sent mate.
Long travel Kit with all the fruit is about $2900 delivered, ready to hit the tracks.
cheers
OONDY
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:53 pm
by chunks
So by using drop out cones in the rear with a 4" spring, what's the longest shock you can fit? And what size extended bump stop will you need?
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:04 pm
by Suspension Stuff
This depends on what 4" coils you are talking about. Usually 4" rear coils will take 730mm shocks. Drop out cones give you about an extra 2".
For the high flex coils that I am talking about you can run 820mm shocks in the rear.
860mm with drop out cones. At this stage it would be best to raise your upper shocks mounts. If you were willing to tie you coils in then you could run longer shocks again.
I will be doing more testing in the next month so I can let people know how big your bump stops need to be.
Shane
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:42 pm
by chunks
Thanks for the reply Shane, not sure what brand coils yet, just trying to work out which model Bilstein to use.
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:48 pm
by drew4130
Im thinking of going the KING 2.25 smoothies from Rangie automotive in Lilydale 2.5 inch lift set up as the biggest I want to run is 35's...He does not have them for sale as yet...think the final adjustments are being made as we speak as he had a prototype set here in his own GU cab chassis for testing....
If not maybe the fabtech setup from wizard
Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:29 pm
by ats4x4dotcom
Our GQ/ GU slinky coils [and 80 105 for that matter] are a 4" lift and stay captive with a 14" stroke shock no problem.
We also have slinky coils for the front, as you can see in the ramp articulated pic.
That pic is our suspension sway bars connected with the right links, bush pressure in the tyres, if the others cant get you that same bang for your buck, or can only offer the same stuff everyone has, then why would you buy it

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:16 pm
by JOHNZ
Mate you live in QLD so basically anything over 2" lift could see you waste all your money.
So stick to 2" or maybe you could push it to 3" & don't waste thousands of $$$$$
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:45 pm
by Suspension Stuff
I have to agree with John. Personally I set up my vehicles for a 3" lift here in the promised land. However I do set them up with variable high flex coils so I can get the same flex as the 5" Lift guys and often more.
Each to their own though. I still sell a lot of 4-5" lifts all over Australia including QLD. (I assume they are all using them for competiton purposes though and trailering their rigs to the comps

)
Shane
Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:12 pm
by chunks
ats4x4dotcom wrote:Our GQ/ GU slinky coils [and 80 105 for that matter] are a 4" lift and stay captive with a 14" stroke shock no problem.
We also have slinky coils for the front, as you can see in the ramp articulated pic.
That pic is our suspension sway bars connected with the right links, bush pressure in the tyres, if the others cant get you that same bang for your buck, or can only offer the same stuff everyone has, then why would you buy it

Very interested in those slinky coils and swaybar links aswell. Do you guys supply to trade customers, or only retail?