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Another driveshaft question

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:35 am
by beebee
What's the best option for a rear driveshaft in a hilux? One piece or two? If you go one piece is it worth/necessary having a double cardin joint at the gearbox end? What is everone else running?

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:37 am
by beebee
I suppose that it's worth sticking with the two piece until I get dual x cases as I'll have to shorten then and go to one piece. Any thoughts?

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 2:46 pm
by NICK
dont quote me on this, but i am 99% sure that an 85 model 4runner rear shaft will bolt right into yours once the dualcase is in, so it might be something to look out for.


NICK

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 3:00 pm
by Julian_4x4
Ok my rear drive shaft is a one piece but i see it has been welded, so it must of been a 2 peice-cheap japenese bastard

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 3:07 pm
by NICK
Julian_4x4 wrote:Ok my rear drive shaft is a one piece but i see it has been welded, so it must of been a 2 peice-cheap japenese bastard



eh? at the ends or in the middle?


NICK

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 6:13 pm
by Julian_4x4
in the middle mate

cheers

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 7:50 pm
by NICK
thats sounds like something ruff would convince me to do.



NICK

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:21 pm
by MissDrew
I have up untill today thought that 2 piece was better as it keeps most of the shaft up higher, but today my rear shaft shit its self again :roll: Yep the old centre bearing is rooted completly this time round :shock: . So within the next week or 2 I am getting a one piece made with a cardan joint in it. Now since you are meant to have the 2 flanges at the same angle and mine aren`t I`m just going to put a cardan in there so it is write the 1st time round.

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:30 pm
by Pal
beebee wrote:I suppose that it's worth sticking with the two piece until I get dual x cases as I'll have to shorten then and go to one piece. Any thoughts?


Just leave it two piece for now .

Turn your rear shaft around and put the spline next to the diff. (For better ground clearance) :D

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:44 pm
by killalux
Pal wrote: Turn your rear shaft around and put the spline next to the diff. (For better ground clearance) :D


wouldnt that mean if you do hit a rock you would be damaging the spline rather then just the tubing

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2003 9:56 pm
by RUFF
I run mine backwards and have for over a year and am yet to damage the jack shaft. It has taken some real hard hits too. I have still destroyed a few tubes in that time.

Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 8:32 am
by bj on roids
RUFF wrote:I run mine backwards and have for over a year and am yet to damage the jack shaft. It has taken some real hard hits too. I have still destroyed a few tubes in that time.


im doing the same thing, it is a good way to gain some clearance and some strength

i have destroyed shafts, unis, yokes, pinons, and other stuff! and bad rockrash on my splined section, but two tonnes of cruiser landing on it, and getting it, and no worries, so i dont think a light hilux will break it!

also the hilux has the same splined section as a cruiser (hilux just has MORE spline (longer travel)

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:38 am
by Zol
How does the cardan joint on the rear tailshaft wear...especially for a daily driver like me?
And does it vibrate at certain speeds?

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:28 am
by bj on roids
Zol wrote:How does the cardan joint on the rear tailshaft wear...especially for a daily driver like me?
And does it vibrate at certain speeds?

Very good, no vibrations on a balanced shaft, but my truck only does 140kph :roll:

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 4:32 pm
by Zol
140 is plenty. :wink:

But I'm sure you'd crawl over most boulders 8)

Just mucking around.

but seriously....I'd say that I'd prefer NOT to go over 140 anyway. My probs come from acceleration, & above 60 at times. i don't have a A frame to stop difwrap either but at the sametime it shouldn't play a part on cruising.

i wonder if a ifs cardon would be enough angle cause they'r more restricted . if it does it gives me more options thats all

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 7:46 pm
by RUFF
Zol some of the curent model 4x4 hiluxs have a D/C joint in the rear shaft from factory.

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 8:19 pm
by sillyca
tony's got a sexy but and a nice shaft :wink:

..

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 9:13 pm
by hypo
i run a 1 peice with a double cardin up top and the spline down the bottom also and have yet 2 break it its got plenty of dings and scraps and that but no vibs at any speed or acceleration its gr8, but yes i am runnin a solid front cardin joint as there is more movement but in the rear of a lux if u point the pinion at the t/case so as the bottom uni is straight and all the angle is in the cardin ( thats how mine is) u will find that an ifs cardin may work as mine dont move that much wen it travels..

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:25 pm
by RUFF
sillyca wrote:tony's got a sexy but and a nice shaft :wink:
:oops: :oops:

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:31 pm
by bubs
RUFF wrote:
sillyca wrote:tony's got a sexy but and a nice shaft :wink:
:oops: :oops:


just wtf is going on here :x :?:

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2003 10:40 pm
by RUFF
bubs wrote:
RUFF wrote:
sillyca wrote:tony's got a sexy but and a nice shaft :wink:
:oops: :oops:


just wtf is going on here :x :?:


:mrgreen:

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 5:01 am
by Zol
Hmmmm
Very interresting..

That looks like the way to go I think. Another very important thing i need to do is to make that A frame to stop the dif wrap.

Ben you got any photos of your one? Or Dave?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2003 6:48 am
by bj on roids
cmawwn

this was a good topic until tony and friends took it off topic :roll: