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ok i have a 96 leaf sprung lux i got exstended shackles and longer shocks to get a little more travel but its still the same as it was before if i was to remove some leafs from the rear packs would this allow more travel..? if so which ones. thanks daniel.
Also these are the orignal rear leaf packs also

you should get rid of the standard springs and go to a spring company
and get them to make you a set of softer springs. it all comes down to the spring rate. if your budget allows it id go for some superior engineering drop schakels. i got an 84 single cab with reset standard springs and 4 inch extended schakles, flex is ok but im goin drop schakles as soon as the budget allows it.

softer springs and drop schakles it should flex pretty good then.

some pics of your set up will help give you an answer

4" extended shackles. wow

put your stock rear springs in the front without the overloads and get a set of IFS rear springs and put them in the back with some 2" extended shackles, will flex pretty good them

i removed a few leafs from the rear and got some good flex im happy with the rear now what do u guys think about the front.? more flex for the front or leave it.?

The flex is fantabulous but WATCH OUT! A snake is about to bite you on the arse!

haha lol i better wacthout then aye.

nice pink towels!

shouldnt they be covered in oil by now? or is that why she bought pink so you wouldnt use them and make them grotto

put your shocks back in and make it flex. it wont be the same, anyone can acheive flex without shocks. i really dunno bout the whole 4 inch extended shackles either

as a general rule with leaf springs for flex you will need address the following -

1. to get maximum up travel (i.e. to the bumpstops) you will have to make sure the spring rate on the pack is matched to the weight they have to support. That means either getting them set properly professionals, or adding /removing leaves to suit the vehicle.

2. to get maximum down travel longer shackles aren't usually enough. To make the best use of the new shackles you will usually need to get a longer main and wrap leaf (which is why it has been suggested to swap your packs rear to front and go ifs rears.) Also consider removing or unbolting the pack retainer saddles that are between the axle and spring eyes to allow the pack leaves to separate. bear in mind that this has other dramas.

3. Then you will have to get a set of shocks to match your maximum up and down travel. Now that you have a light set of very flexible leaves, you will also have to match shock rates to help control flop on side slopes.

this is by no means exhaustive but a good start. hope it helps

its about the same with shocks in as i measured the distance of flex and went down to arb and got the right length shocks all i have to do is make the shocks mount from the middle.

Easy fix to get flex......

Sell it and Buy a Landrover

sclarke7171 wrote:Easy fix to get flex......

Sell it and Buy a Landrover

yeah right. so all he will have to worry about then is using 14.5 liters of oil per 100km as it leaks all over the highway.

and landy leaf sprung trucks are even worse than luxs for flex

spazbot wrote:put your stock rear springs in the front without the overloads and get a set of IFS rear springs and put them in the back with some 2" extended shackles, will flex pretty good them

this is the go.
or i hear falcon ute springs go alright in the rear.
its a tradeoff though, onroad handling vs flex.

also you might want to consider a track bar if your removing leaves chief.

rockcrawler31 wrote:

sclarke7171 wrote:Easy fix to get flex......

Sell it and Buy a Landrover

yeah right. so all he will have to worry about then is using 14.5 liters of oil per 100km as it leaks all over the highway.

and landy leaf sprung trucks are even worse than luxs for flex

And you know this because you have a Toyota???
Ive had 2 Toyo's and 9 Landy's... only 1 Leaf sprung landy, and it out performed the fJ40 and 89 Troopy i had....

Oil leak... yeah they do and they spreads all under the body and chassis and stops rust.... unlike a Toyo...

rockcrawler31 wrote:as a general rule with leaf springs for flex you will need address the following -

1. to get maximum up travel (i.e. to the bumpstops) you will have to make sure the spring rate on the pack is matched to the weight they have to support. That means either getting them set properly professionals, or adding /removing leaves to suit the vehicle.

2. to get maximum down travel longer shackles aren't usually enough. To make the best use of the new shackles you will usually need to get a longer main and wrap leaf (which is why it has been suggested to swap your packs rear to front and go ifs rears.) Also consider removing or unbolting the pack retainer saddles that are between the axle and spring eyes to allow the pack leaves to separate. bear in mind that this has other dramas.

With getting maximum uptravel you also need to be wary of the spring length, to short and the spring will be flat before you are upto the bumpstops, the only way it will get to the bump stops is if the springs bends the opposite way! no good!

P.S I got some brand new IFS springs if you want them for the rear, should make those shackles work much better

U wudnt hav to worry about rust anyways wud u being made from recycled coke cans??

if u r really serious about gettin sum more leaf flex u cud always consider importing the trailgear front and rear kits. They consist of just about everything u need and r dirt cheap.

http://www.trail-gear.com/classic.html
http://www.trail-gear.com/rearsuspension.html

Boof from here and other forums has just completed SAS'ing his 98 lux using these kits and the flex is awesome to say the least. If my 4runner wasnt 5link coil rear and having a 3link SAS i wud go this path.

When mine were built, coke came in tin cans...

sclarke7171 wrote:

rockcrawler31 wrote:

sclarke7171 wrote:Easy fix to get flex......

Sell it and Buy a Landrover

yeah right. so all he will have to worry about then is using 14.5 liters of oil per 100km as it leaks all over the highway.

and landy leaf sprung trucks are even worse than luxs for flex

And you know this because you have a Toyota???
Ive had 2 Toyo's and 9 Landy's... only 1 Leaf sprung landy, and it out performed the fJ40 and 89 Troopy i had....

Oil leak... yeah they do and they spreads all under the body and chassis and stops rust.... unlike a Toyo...

and i know this because i spent more than my fair share of time in perenties and series rovers. I'm not a one eyed toyota man, i like landies and have a bit of a soft spot for them. soldier proof, capable, leak like bitches, rattly, and ergonomically stone age. good and bad. I just think its poor form to bag the poor fellers car when he's after a bit of advice.

rockcrawler31 wrote:

sclarke7171 wrote:

rockcrawler31 wrote:

sclarke7171 wrote:Easy fix to get flex......

Sell it and Buy a Landrover

yeah right. so all he will have to worry about then is using 14.5 liters of oil per 100km as it leaks all over the highway.

and landy leaf sprung trucks are even worse than luxs for flex

And you know this because you have a Toyota???
Ive had 2 Toyo's and 9 Landy's... only 1 Leaf sprung landy, and it out performed the fJ40 and 89 Troopy i had....

Oil leak... yeah they do and they spreads all under the body and chassis and stops rust.... unlike a Toyo...

I just think its poor form to bag the poor fellers car when he's after a bit of advice.

x2 if ya not going to contribute to the discussed topic then dont post!!

mate have a look throught the members section and see what some of the other people are doing with their luxes!!

Evan

spazbot wrote:put your stock rear springs in the front without the overloads and get a set of IFS rear springs and put them in the back with some 2" extended shackles, will flex pretty good them

Are the rears the same lenght as the front leafs or do you have to move the mounts?.

nah wack ya rears up front and run 2 inch ext shackles with em. ya cant run stock shackles with ruf as the shackle hit the chassie and basically the worst shackle angle ever