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BFG Muds

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:38 pm
by Froon
I'm sure people here have a lot of experience with BFG Muds but I'm suffering from severe deflation issues when running them in mud... Problem is I keep getting dirt into the beeds that causes the tyres to deflate - Is there a trick for preventing this other than not airing down?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:02 pm
by YankeeDave
i suggest external beadlock rims

Re: BFG Muds

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:05 pm
by Emo
Froon wrote:I'm sure people here have a lot of experience with BFG Muds but I'm suffering from severe deflation issues when running them in mud... Problem is I keep getting dirt into the beeds that causes the tyres to deflate - Is there a trick for preventing this other than not airing down?
Not that I've found. I just have a good relaionship with the Kmart tyre place near work that will take the tyre off and clean the bead for me for $10 a tyre.
The ProComp rim has a lip on it that might help.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:42 pm
by MYTANK
Out of curiosity what pressures are you running ?

Dan

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:56 pm
by Froon
I drop down to 16 PSI...

had two leaky beads within 1 hour of each other.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:28 pm
by taspatrol
what size rim what size tyre there are alot of things that contribute

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:29 pm
by Froon
15x10 rims 35" in total.

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:37 pm
by rezpkt
Buy some HD tubes?

Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:44 pm
by j-top paj
search noob :finger:

its the "bead protector" that does it.
the first series didnt have this problem and i hear the next series doesnt have them.
i have got some of that black sikaflex bead sealant stuff on mine and havnt had a problem since.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:05 am
by Goatse.AJ
Was covered pretty comprehensively in a thread ages ago.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:00 am
by Froon
AJFeroza wrote:Was covered pretty comprehensively in a thread ages ago.
Why is such a major issue not in the bible? :P

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 9:59 am
by Jeff80
Could be an Issue because you are running 15x10's. Generally, 15x8 or 15x9 would be a better combo as the tire bags better at lower PSI and pushes hard up against the rim.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:47 pm
by bogged
Jeff80 wrote:Could be an Issue because you are running 15x10's. Generally, 15x8 or 15x9 would be a better combo as the tire bags better at lower PSI and pushes hard up against the rim.
was thinking the same.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:58 pm
by dansedgli
I have the same problem with my BFG's too.

Running 40 psi off road made it better but they still get slow leaks all of the time.

Running tubes stopped it in the 3 that I have fitted tubes to. If I start using the tyres again Ill get tubes fitted to the other 2 rather than have the beads cleaned out every 5 minutes.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:27 pm
by Guy
dansedgli wrote:I have the same problem with my BFG's too.

Running 40 psi off road made it better but they still get slow leaks all of the time.

Running tubes stopped it in the 3 that I have fitted tubes to. If I start using the tyres again Ill get tubes fitted to the other 2 rather than have the beads cleaned out every 5 minutes.
40Psi off-road .. and you still get bead leaks its beadlock time fou you my friend .. and a much more comfortable ride.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:38 pm
by dansedgli
Centipedes fixed it.

I havent had a problem since.

Bfg

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:55 pm
by micks troll
They dont work on 15x8's either. I had 33x12.5x15 and sold them in disgust bought Mongrels at the time Heaps better and never had the same problem with swampers either. They are now a glorified road tyre unless you beadlock or tube them which their not worth doin to. IMO

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:21 pm
by crack
ive got 33's on a 15x10 rim and have run them in comps and weekend play and on the road and havnt had a problem. ive had the tyre down as low as 8psi and still havnt broke the bead.

Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:34 pm
by Yom
Mate has the same issue with BFG AT's.

Needless to say when i went and bought tyres I made sure they didnt have the "rim protector" on them as thats all it seems to be which is causing the problems.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:20 am
by j-top paj
Jeff80 wrote:Could be an Issue because you are running 15x10's. Generally, 15x8 or 15x9 would be a better combo as the tire bags better at lower PSI and pushes hard up against the rim.
makes no difference

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:21 am
by j-top paj
dansedgli wrote:

Running 40 psi off road


:shock: :shock: :shock:
are you on crack?

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:14 am
by dansedgli
Its what the tyre guy said to do.

If I can run tracks with 40psi with less worry about leaks then why not?

Other than the extra grip on rocks and softer ride what other benefits is there to running low pressures?

I went off road nearly every weekend for at least a year with those tyres and no issues.

I dont see what the big deal is and why you say i must be on crack to do it.

Its irrelevant now anyway because I bought simex's ages ago but Im interested to hear your reasoning.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:53 pm
by mqharris84
I had bfg muddys 35s on 15x8s on my last mq never let pressures down once and i put that baby though hell and back think from memory i was running between 35 to 40 psi, i run then 4 about a year no probs at all

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:20 pm
by BENOLUX
just dont drop your pressures so much in the mud i used to run my simex roadies at like 12psi and they are skinnies and ive never had this problem. but i would try increasing the pressure by about 5 psi maybe and see if that helps. just m2cw

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:31 pm
by GUte
Use Simex inner tubes.

Al.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:21 pm
by RockyF75
I think he said your on crack cause lower PSI offroad makes a HUUUUUUUGE difference as far as capability :D


I was thinking of going BFG muds for my next tires cause everyone reckons you get lots of km's out of them, they look sweet :cool: , and apart from this slow leak business I don't think I've heard/read anything about them. I'd rather TSL's or Pedes or similar, but want to be able to drive on tar to tracks and camp spots without bringing a trailer with my "offroad" tires on them

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:46 pm
by cody82
I just cant wait till the new KM2 is out and we start to get feed back on that...If it were not for the new KM2 id go out and buy the old BF muddy no worries, alot of mates run them and havnt had dramas, all of which have tubes in them.

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:05 pm
by j-top paj
RockyF75 wrote:I think he said your on crack cause lower PSI offroad makes a HUUUUUUUGE difference as far as capability :D
basically ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:07 pm
by j-top paj
RockyF75 wrote:

I was thinking of going BFG muds for my next tires cause everyone reckons you get lots of km's out of them, they look sweet :cool: , and apart from this slow leak business I don't think I've heard/read anything about them. I'd rather TSL's or Pedes or similar, but want to be able to drive on tar to tracks and camp spots without bringing a trailer with my "offroad" tires on them
wait till the new series is released in Australia.
they have been out for a while in the US and i have read some good reviews on them :armsup:

Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:26 pm
by RockyF75
j-top paj wrote:
RockyF75 wrote:

I was thinking of going BFG muds for my next tires cause everyone reckons you get lots of km's out of them, they look sweet :cool: , and apart from this slow leak business I don't think I've heard/read anything about them. I'd rather TSL's or Pedes or similar, but want to be able to drive on tar to tracks and camp spots without bringing a trailer with my "offroad" tires on them
wait till the new series is released in Australia.
they have been out for a while in the US and i have read some good reviews on them :armsup:
Dunno. Haven't seen em in real life but by the pics on BFGs site the old ones look more aggressive. Would like to actually see a set