Outer Limits 4x4 Board

with out wheel spacers, what do you all consider the largest width you could run would be, in realation to wheel bearings, rim strenght etc.

And ruff lim gaps and bottie dont count.



NICK

How stock is the vehicle now?

Is the axle/diff housing stock?

Are you going to alter the OE suspensions geometry?

WHat do yo want to achieve?

the vehicle is as stock as it was the day it rolled of the toyota factoy floor.

the front axle is stock, has a locker, moved forward 3 inch and will soon have longs.

The suspension as been swaped out, and has about 3 inch of lift, the geometery is close to being standard bar everying being forward.


Basically i want to a achieve a wider wheel track through IFS hub swap and rims, am interested to see what people have done and how it was held up for both wear and tear and realiabitlty.


NICK

well im running 15x10s with 2inch backspacing and 16inch wide tires and so far the wheelbearings have held up good

Nick,

I understand from your thread thjat you have "swapped" out the front axle? If yes, geometry has already altered. We need to know more.

Is this a Surf? You may widen the track with spacers. This will increase unsprung weight and increase the compound leverage on everything attached to the front end. Now there is nothing wrong with IFS, but, you are limited as I expect you already understand, with the amount of droop and bump that you may be wanting to increase on the IFS because it is an IFS.

More data please.

yeah it is a surf, and it is soild. When i say IFS hubs, you take the hubs from a IFS truck and fit them to a solid front diff, thus giving you close to 3 inch in width avoiding the use of wheel spacers.

I understand that the leverage is increased with width, but at any point is it too wide and it become un effective?


NICK

You will have a fair bit more loading on the wheel bearings bu I dont think that it would matter much cause it wont break anything but things just might wear out faster.

I think the biggest effect will be the change in the steering geometry with the spacers. The steering wheel will be harder to turn and it will be more prone to self steering when you hit a bump and I guess it would "tram line" worse. But nothing that should be too much of a worry.

I think that basically everything we do to our rigs makes them drive worse on the road and this mod is no different.

Sam

might sound dum nick but y not look at a wider factory diff like say out of a 60 or 80 or nissan or sumthin that way the diffand bearins and everythin is designed 2 have the extra width and that if that makes sense if ya worried bout it breakin

WHAT this "drive on the road" stuff who cares if it handles like a three wheel shooping as long as it looks good.

Take my car as an example it looks great and handles like a formula one car.

POS it drives like shit

when it drives at all

yeah you wont be saying that when i back over your pile.

just make sure you have the hand break off

(little personal joke, will tell you all about that some other time.)

good point hypolux, that is the best way to do it

so when TJpete sells me his dynatrack HP60s, i will be able to get more width, and more strength without sacrificing my bulletproof toyota axles

Plus if u swap in sumthin like a crusa or nissan diff wont it b stronger so ya kinda killin 2 birds with 1 stone.

on the down side ya mite loose a bit of clearence under the pumpkin but the extra strength will aloow 2 u run bigga meat without the fear of bustin shite

Dont worry about the bigger meats - just use more throttle.

When in doubt throttle out!!

Sam

Strange Rover wrote:Dont worry about the bigger meats - just use more throttle.

When in doubt throttle out!!

Sam

thats right dont root round just DRIVE IT GO