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Are there higher High Lift Jacks?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:01 am
by LuxyBoy
I have a high lift jack but with my 33" on it can't lift the tyre it only flexes the cab up; now that i have 36" it will be impossible.
Are there longer shaft high lift jacks
What does everyone else do
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:12 am
by Nev
What size have you got? Biggest I've seen is 60". Are you trying to use it to get the tyre off or just lift the vehicle? If your just lifting the car then you could get one of the adaptors that lifts from your rim.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:45 am
by LuxyBoy
Will have to measure it when i get home.
Wanting to get tyres off.
The only other thing i thought is if i used one of those rim lifting adapters and then put axle stands under to hold the weight while i changed the tyre; problem is when your off road there isn't much level ground and the vehicle would roll off the stands
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:08 am
by Wooders
Sounds like you are using the jack incorrectly.
If you want to lift the tyre, use a strap or chain around the diff&chassis so your not just flexing the suspension and giving it more force to spring back down with
when it slips
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:16 am
by alien
buy a hydraulic jack, one of those little ones, and jack it up from the diff.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:53 am
by bad_religion_au
throw a ratchet strap around the diff and the chassis so that when you lift the chassis, the tire goes with it.
although i agree that it's easier to use a bottle jack to change tires
jacks
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:00 am
by klrevo
yeh, i just bought a 60" highlift $158, but i also bought a 4 ton bottle jack for changing tyres $28.
dean
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:03 am
by LuxyBoy
alien wrote:buy a hydraulic jack, one of those little ones, and jack it up from the diff.
When on a hill
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:17 am
by hokey
just don't get under it and chock all the wheels. more likely to fall off a highlift than a bottle jack imo as its under the axle and you aren't lifting it 2ft in the air
Re: jacks
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:54 am
by LuxyBoy
klrevo wrote:yeh, i just bought a 60" highlift $158, but i also bought a 4 ton bottle jack for changing tyres $28.
dean
So what do you use the the highlift for
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:59 am
by pridhac
I use a big chinese trolley jack to change tyres, its dead easy. The jack has a very long handle, and about a 600mm throw. $150 from Autoparts. Cheap :-)
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:43 pm
by shorty_f0rty
LuxyBoy wrote:alien wrote:buy a hydraulic jack, one of those little ones, and jack it up from the diff.
When on a hill
does this mean you'd consider using a hilift on a hill too? madness!
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:37 pm
by LuxyBoy
pridhac wrote:I use a big chinese trolley jack to change tyres, its dead easy. The jack has a very long handle, and about a 600mm throw. $150 from Autoparts. Cheap :-)
Already have an awesome "shed jack" low profile, high lift, double pump cylinders and long arm. Lifting on and off ute when off road......FARK THAT
shorty_f0rty wrote:
LuxyBoy wrote:
alien wrote:
buy a hydraulic jack, one of those little ones, and jack it up from the diff.
When on a hill
does this mean you'd consider using a hilift on a hill too? madness!
Yes isn't that what they are for
Should note i would also strap it to a tree or another vehicle so it doesn't drive itself to the bottom
So what do you use the the highlift for and what do you use on a hill
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:33 pm
by dansedgli
My high lift has a warning sticker saying not to be used for changing tyres.
Thats not to say I havent done it though. I dont know if I would use it at all otherwise. I have it because it was a gift.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:50 pm
by LuxyBoy
Re: jacks
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:51 pm
by sierrajim
LuxyBoy wrote:klrevo wrote:yeh, i just bought a 60" highlift $158, but i also bought a 4 ton bottle jack for changing tyres $28.
dean
So what do you use the the highlift for
They make your car look more "off road worthy".
They are handy, they are unstable, they don't like dust. I have one, use it quite a lot. They do become very unstable if you don't chain the diff to the chassis before lifting the car.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:00 pm
by grimbo
mine keeps my shed door open when I'm moving stuff to and from there. otherwise it is a large piece of useless metal
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:31 pm
by Rory
good for debeading tyres..lifting truck outta ruts n then pushing it off the jack...changing tyres on the flat with ur diff chained to the frame...
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:50 pm
by LuxyBoy
Rory wrote:lifting truck outta ruts n then pushing it off the jack
Thanks guys replys have been appreciated.
Need to go look at bottle jacks now
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:17 pm
by dogbreath_48
Agreed they're pretty useless except for when you can't get a bottle jack under the axle - even on flat ground they're dangerous. Still i consider them a handy bit of equipment to carry.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:16 pm
by grimbo
LuxyBoy wrote:Rory wrote:lifting truck outta ruts n then pushing it off the jack
Thanks guys replys have been appreciated.
Need to go look at bottle jacks now
not sure why you're laughing that is how to use them in a rutted track situation. Which is why they are dangerous pieces of metal not good for much
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:18 pm
by shorty_f0rty
LuxyBoy wrote:So what do you use the the highlift for and what do you use on a hill
well id personally try and get to flat ground to change tyres, having a vehicle on a hill to change a tyre, even strapped to something secure is risky business in my books,..
you can use it as a clamp, expander, straightener of steering links (handle works good as a sleeve), push out your roof after a hard roll, winch or to lift my 40 onto jack stands in the driveway.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:19 pm
by bad_religion_au
mine is usually used as a wheel chock.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:21 pm
by dansedgli
We used the handle last weekend to get my motor back into place after the engine mount let go.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:27 pm
by grimbo
dansedgli wrote:We used the handle last weekend to get my motor back into place after the engine mount let go.
the handles are the most useful part of them. it has gotten much more use than the jack ever has or will
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:17 pm
by Taff
the shaft is super useful. that and duct tape or fencing wire makes good steering link reinforcement.
the only time i actually used the jack was for putting in a bodylift.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:57 pm
by Gwagensteve
a high lihft is for credibility. Make sure it is mounted somewhere on the vehicle where the most people can see it, preferably on a roofrack or similar. Then everyone will know you're hardcore.
We refer to the hilift as "the deathstick" I've had my car fall off one with the wheels chocked, in the garage. I've never used one in the bush.
What are they for? anything but lifting a car off the ground. If you have to use one this way, ABSOLUTELY chain the axle to the chassis before you liftand be very very careful.
The handle is grouse though!
Steve.
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:24 pm
by chikoroll_
....so why are they called a lift if they can't lift?
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:24 pm
by evanstaniland
Taff wrote:
the only time i actually used the jack was for putting in a bodylift.
x2
to change tyres i use a trolly jack!! if ya shed one is too damn huge get a smaller one with a break down handle to take with you!!!
Evan..
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:34 pm
by Gwagensteve
chikoroll_ wrote:....so why are they called a lift if they can't lift?
They can lift, just not a car, safely. Remember, they were designed around the turn of the century (1907 of something) as a farm tool, not as a piece of recovery equipment. I think they are missapropriated as a jack for general vehicle use.
If everyone always chained the axle to the car before lifting, it wouldn't be a problem though.
Steve.