Outer Limits 4x4 Board

after a mnifold or adaptor plate for leylend 4.4 to run a 350 holley cheap as possible

mick

Adapter plates should be fairly common as the P76 had the same 2 barrel Stromberg carb as a 253.

I've got a 500 Holley 2 barrell on a standard 4.4 manifold. Doesn't yours fit?

are you sure its a standard manifold, none of my manifolds will fit a holley without an adaptor

Your right Bigbad

I always assumed it to be a standard manifold

I just pulled the carby off and there is a "speco" adapter plate.

Sorry about that

I have a 350 holley on my 4.4 its just been rebuilt but im after something different

Ye Olde Rangie wrote:I have a 350 holley on my 4.4 its just been rebuilt but im after something different

what problems do you find with your holley setup?

i find if i stall it on a hill it really struggles to start and just not happy with how it runs with it

I have a 450 4brl holley on a 4.4 using a bolt on 4brl to 253 adapter, central float and better design means less likely to flood like a 350 on hills.

I modded my 350 holly and it runs sweet on hills moved the bowl vent to the center of the top of the bowl and blocked the original fitted a small tube and a short length of hose to run it in through the aircleaner and it works a treat will now start run idle and rev happly on any angle and is far beta to tune and uses less fuel than the standard twinns it also has a speco adaptor to fit the std 2barrell ww stromberg base on the 4.4 manifold

I have a 450 4brl Holley of a 253 here at the moment.

Going cheap

Does a holley run better, power & economy , than the land rover injection system?

Corgie Carrier wrote:Does a holley run better, power & economy , than the land rover injection system?

Yep if its the early rangie injection its crap

lokka wrote:

Corgie Carrier wrote:Does a holley run better, power & economy , than the land rover injection system?

Yep if its the early rangie injection its crap

agreed early efi is a bastard

It's on an 89 model rangie is that the shit one?

If it is I'll pull it off and put the holley from my other truck on it.

Corgie Carrier wrote:It's on an 89 model rangie is that the shit one?

If it is I'll pull it off and put the holley from my other truck on it.

Yep if its the flaper type mass air sensor its crap find the set up from a disco and then use aftermarket computer or a delco form a dunny dore if ya want to run EFI

Do you have pics of how you modified your holley?

I might just put the holley on and ditch the efi.

Corgie Carrier wrote:Do you have pics of how you modified your holley?

I might just put the holley on and ditch the efi.

Nope no pics sorry but all i did was to block the original bowl vent and move it to the center of the fuel bowl and then drill a hole in it to take a small peice of tube then drill another hole in the aircleaner to take the tube and as i run the small holden aircleaner with the side spout it has to have a hole cut in the filter eliment for the tube to stick through then i fitted a short peice of hose to it and run it in near the ventri of the carby so the fuel bowl still has the vacume pressure like it has wih the original vent set up without the problem of fuel spilling into the ventri causing the flooding on hills it will now idle and run sweet at 45 degree angles in any direction ....
As for getting a holly to run sweet ya need to get the corect power valve for the engin as this is the most important part use the wrong valve and it will drink pety and run crap and the jets will also keep the the econmy at a workable rate to its all trial and error with jets and valves if ya dont know what ya dooin ive had heaps of experiance with hollys and they have allways been a simple and easy carby to tune and maintain

Agreed a well setup holley is easy to tune and gives good power and economy, when i put the holley on my 3.5 back in 97 i went to a performance shop and played around with some power valves and jets, ended up settling on a 65 PV and 59 jets - ran really nice on 2 different rangies.

So if I pull the injection off, what do I do with all the wiring for it, just leave it there or do I have to modify it some how?

So what have you actually got? An efi rangie with P76? Does it have spacer plates between the manifold and heads? If it does you could use a rover manifold and sus or strombergs. What year is it, is the EFI standard or been added since? You will most likely have to remove it, just unplugs under the dash, but you need to supply power to the fuel pump, which will have to be low pressure.

bigbad wrote:So what have you actually got? An efi rangie with P76? Does it have spacer plates between the manifold and heads? If it does you could use a rover manifold and sus or strombergs. What year is it, is the EFI standard or been added since? You will most likely have to remove it, just unplugs under the dash, but you need to supply power to the fuel pump, which will have to be low pressure.

ive got a 3.5 in it at the moment with a holley on top but ive driven and worked on everything from series 2 to 2007 rangies im looking at sticking a 4.4 in with a holley on it not impressed with the standard carbie setup and efi is just too much work basicly just gunna be a throttle body rarely run petrol basicly straight gas so the dollar factor just doesnt add up in my book cost of system spacers etc aint worth it when you can just toss a holley at it and get basicly the same out of it

sorry, theres about 3 threads here combined into one, getting a bit mixed up.
If your running LPG mostly, a holley would be fine. Mine just has a wildcat adaptor under it on a standard manifold. should be easy enough to find a cheap one of them. Otherwise I think a falcon TBI bolts on, if you only run gas.

cool mate thanks for the imput

If the 4.4 runs a WW stromberg then i have an adapter plate to go from 2 barrell stromberg to 350 holley, here's a pic:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268 ... ure085.jpg

$15 plus post and it's yours.

cheers

Busta-P

what sort of fuel usage you get with 350 holley.
My WW2 to 4.4 LT95 33 std diff, I think it runs around 2,500rpm at 100.
I seem to be getting about 20ltrs per hundred if I'm real carfull.
Runs good on all but the steepest slopes.
I got the aclerator link on the centre and was actually thinking of puting on the less travel postion to save more fuel..???

But a holley could be good as well.... Whats the spacer worth new these days, if I miss this one...

ARangie wrote:what sort of fuel usage you get with 350 holley.
My WW2 to 4.4 LT95 33 std diff, I think it runs around 2,500rpm at 100.
I seem to be getting about 20ltrs per hundred if I'm real carfull.
Runs good on all but the steepest slopes.
I got the aclerator link on the centre and was actually thinking of puting on the less travel postion to save more fuel..???

But a holley could be good as well.... Whats the spacer worth new these days, if I miss this one...

Last one i bought new was a speco brand for $15 but they pop up on ebay for $5 up, i got the 4rbl to WW stromberg for $10. You can make one easily out of 10mm alloy plate by using a holley base gasket as a template.

Corgie Carrier wrote:Do you have pics of how you modified your holley?

I might just put the holley on and ditch the efi.

That would be silly, you'd be better off updating the EFI. You only need a few bits from a disco to go to a hotwire AFM setup instead of the flapper.

Carbies... honestly it's not 1953 any more, I don't know why people fark around with that old tech.

How do I tell the difference between the flapper and the hotwire.

Mine should be the hotwire as it is in an 89 model RR

chimpboy wrote:

Corgie Carrier wrote:Do you have pics of how you modified your holley?

I might just put the holley on and ditch the efi.

That would be silly, you'd be better off updating the EFI. You only need a few bits from a disco to go to a hotwire AFM setup instead of the flapper.

Carbies... honestly it's not 1953 any more, I don't know why people fark around with that old tech.

If its a carby car its easier to stay with carb than to switch to EFI esecially if you are running dual fuel.