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Hi, i'm looking at getting this kit from superior
Superior engineering has combined a 3 inch kit with 4 x coil Springs , 4 x tough dog 45mm adjustable shock absorbers, 1 x Tough dog EXT damper, 2 x extended brake lines, 4 x rubber high flexing caster bushes
Is there anything else required when you do a 3 inch lift?

GUpatrol02 wrote:Hi, i'm looking at getting this kit from superior
Superior engineering has combined a 3 inch kit with 4 x coil Springs , 4 x tough dog 45mm adjustable shock absorbers, 1 x Tough dog EXT damper, 2 x extended brake lines, 4 x rubber high flexing caster bushes
Is there anything else required when you do a 3 inch lift?

since its a kit from superoir it would most likely be evrything you need but the next steep would be extended brake line.. you can get away with just buying a longer rear and then move the old rear to the front..
and spin the rear tail shaft end to end . it stops it rubbing ..

Sound good to me, that is the same as my 4" kit but I have fitted adjustable panhard rods as well.

If you plan to run your sway bars then you may want to consider getting longer sway bar link pins.

I have one pair of Superiors front disconnects in stock. Superior don't have any in stock, I have more on order and they are waiting on parts.

Otherwise I can order in some fixed length link pins for you for about half the price. They are half the link pin in quality so don't bother looking on my web site for the cheaper link pins because I don't advertise them.

If you plan to drive it hard in the bush then I would consider getting a stronger lower control arm.

You will have to raise your rear bump stops otherwise you will stuff your rear shocks.

Shane

What's the damage on a kit like this?

1800 supply only, any one know how much i should be paying to get it fitted?

Haven't had much experience with Superior...Other than hearing they've got good gear.

But seems a bit steep, I bought a complete 3" lift for GQ (comprising of 4 coils, 4 Lovells shocks...really long shocks on the rear , extended lines, castor correction.) for around $1000.

I Might have to talk to Shane (Suspension Stuff) again as i'm looking to go either 4-5 inch instead.

Cheers, Dano.

P.S. I payed my mechanic $400 cash to fit....including the correction bushes which have to be done with a press....unless your super keen to save the cash.

My mechanic wants $400 to fit a kit too - but he's quoting me 1200 for the bits - still waiting to hear what those bits are exactly, other than "Tough Dog", which is what he's told me so far.

You would almost halve the price if you used dobinson's stuff. Big O 4x4 would be able to sort you out with all the gear you need. Just do a search on google for his store.

Good bloke, very easy to deal with.

Cheers
Sanga

Guy From Nowhere wrote:You would almost halve the price if you used dobinson's stuff. Big O 4x4 would be able to sort you out with all the gear you need. Just do a search on google for his store.

Good bloke, very easy to deal with.

Cheers
Sanga

x2

my lift only cost me 8 or 9 hundred when i got it,
and a mate and I installed it in an arvo

j-top paj wrote:

Guy From Nowhere wrote:You would almost halve the price if you used dobinson's stuff. Big O 4x4 would be able to sort you out with all the gear you need. Just do a search on google for his store.

Good bloke, very easy to deal with.

Cheers
Sanga

x2

my lift only cost me 8 or 9 hundred when i got it,
and a mate and I installed it in an arvo

X3

Andy at Big O is a great bloke

Hmmm.

Dobinson Spring and Suspension 2-3" Lift kit
To suit GQ & GU Patrols, 80 & 105 Series Land Cruisers, Range Rovers, Land Rover Discovery.

Kit Includes:

Dobinson 2-3" Coil springs front and rear
Dobinson HD Gas Shock Absorbers
Dobinson HD Big Bore Steering damper
2 Degree Caster bush kit

$900 + Freight ...
... then get someone to fit it for me... not bad. If it's good gear.

Is it 2" or 3"?

Tom0 wrote: ... then get someone to fit it for me... not bad. If it's good gear.

fit it yourself, its not hard.
a mate and I fit mine in an arvo

Tom0 wrote:Hmmm.

Dobinson Spring and Suspension 2-3" Lift kit
To suit GQ & GU Patrols, 80 & 105 Series Land Cruisers, Range Rovers, Land Rover Discovery.

Kit Includes:

Dobinson 2-3" Coil springs front and rear
Dobinson HD Gas Shock Absorbers
Dobinson HD Big Bore Steering damper
2 Degree Caster bush kit

$900 + Freight ...
... then get someone to fit it for me... not bad. If it's good gear.

Is it 2" or 3"?

It is worth the extra money to get rubber castor correction bushes. I wouldn't get any castor correction bushes if the choice was poly or nothing for a 2" lift.
For a 3" lift you do need castor correction bushes so get rubber ones.

The above price is very good and use to be my price when I was selling poly bushes except I included freight. My prices haven't changed except for the extra it costs for the rubber castor correction bushes. In other words, if you picked up from the above supplier you would get the same price as I deliver it to your door. Both these prices are at about trade prices. I keep everything in stock so it can be sent the same day. (I don't have any disconnects at the moment because I sold my last set today)

The 1st post was comparing Superior's prices, the Tough Dog adjustable shocks alone cost $990+ so you can't really compare any of the other prices with theirs.

Shane

By the way I am selling off my 3" lift EFS GQ shocks for $350 including freight. I have 3 sets left. EDIT: SOLD OUT SORRY

Shane

j-top paj wrote:

Tom0 wrote: ... then get someone to fit it for me... not bad. If it's good gear.

fit it yourself, its not hard.
a mate and I fit mine in an arvo

Not everyone is competent on tools, i sold a customer a 2" kit that he wanted to fit himself...he struggled to even get the springs out so we ended up fitting the kit for him.

chunks wrote:

j-top paj wrote:

Tom0 wrote: ... then get someone to fit it for me... not bad. If it's good gear.

fit it yourself, its not hard.
a mate and I fit mine in an arvo

Not everyone is competent on tools, i sold a customer a 2" kit that he wanted to fit himself...he struggled to even get the springs out so we ended up fitting the kit for him.

yes...there are some city slickers out there!
i enjoy tinkering with my truck and helping my mates out with theres
although i do have the tools which makes things miles easier!!!

4WD Stuff wrote:

Tom0 wrote:Hmmm.

Dobinson Spring and Suspension 2-3" Lift kit
To suit GQ & GU Patrols, 80 & 105 Series Land Cruisers, Range Rovers, Land Rover Discovery.

Kit Includes:

Dobinson 2-3" Coil springs front and rear
Dobinson HD Gas Shock Absorbers
Dobinson HD Big Bore Steering damper
2 Degree Caster bush kit

$900 + Freight ...
... then get someone to fit it for me... not bad. If it's good gear.

Is it 2" or 3"?

It is worth the extra money to get rubber castor correction bushes. I wouldn't get any castor correction bushes if the choice was poly or nothing for a 2" lift.
For a 3" lift you do need castor correction bushes so get rubber ones.

The above price is very good and use to be my price when I was selling poly bushes except I included freight. My prices haven't changed except for the extra it costs for the rubber castor correction bushes. In other words, if you picked up from the above supplier you would get the same price as I deliver it to your door. Both these prices are at about trade prices. I keep everything in stock so it can be sent the same day. (I don't have any disconnects at the moment because I sold my last set today)

The 1st post was comparing Superior's prices, the Tough Dog adjustable shocks alone cost $990+ so you can't really compare any of the other prices with theirs.

Shane

I am pretty sure you will find that Coxy at Big - O 4x4 also includes freight in his prices! Nice try on the sale steal thoguh

I didn't realise that he was quoting Big-O however I am pretty sure he charges for freight because I am going to order a set of his arms and he was charging me for freight. Big-O is my nearest competitor for prices and is doing it for a great price as I am, so either way you are getting a bargain.

However I would nearly never sell a complete Dobinsons kit or a complete Lovells kit etc because I recommend the best parts from each brand for someones application.

I get good rates with my freight company. I am often hundreds of dollars cheaper and I have been well over $400 cheaper then someone just in the freight quote when sending stuff to remote WA, not that price is everything. The most important thing is are you getting the product that you will be happy with for years to come?

Sometimes I won't have stuff in stock which becomes a pain but I try to keep 3 bits of everything at all times. You would be surprised how often orders use to be held up for one little part. This turns out to be quite a lot of stock because I also carry quite a few special build part numbers that fill the gaps of what is traditionally available.

Technically I am steeling from Superior though from the original post

Shane why don't you open a shop and fit the gear as well?

chunks wrote:Shane why don't you open a shop and fit the gear as well?

Money mate, money. I had a choice of shop or stock and I chose stock for now. As soon as I can scrape some together I'll be there but you have to start somewhere. I tried to tell the Mrs that we don't need a house but she just doesn't see it the way I do.

Cheers
Shane

Fair enough, maybe down the track. Its always good seeing the finished result after fitting suspension!

ive been fitting some test gear for shane and live on the sunny coast ill fit it for $ 250 and even shine the tires for ya . 5 or so hours bushes and all
Adam

My blokes are fitting my kit for $400 - which i reckon is nothing special in $$, but I trust them.

I decided I liked them when, after I explained how damn cheap I was, they got clever instead of being lazy. One mechanic said he'd replace all my shocker. My guy tested my shockers and said they were fine, just the bushes were worn out. Instead of buying new bushes at $xx each he just used some other kind from a sedan and trimmed them to size with a saw (or something like that). That's the kind of cost-saving initiative I like to hear from my mechanic!

eek ............

$400 is not overly expensive, does that include wheel alignment?

I expect so. I'll have a chat to them about it.

Tom0 wrote:My blokes are fitting my kit for $400 - which i reckon is nothing special in $$, but I trust them.

I decided I liked them when, after I explained how damn cheap I was, they got clever instead of being lazy. One mechanic said he'd replace all my shocker. My guy tested my shockers and said they were fine, just the bushes were worn out. Instead of buying new bushes at $xx each he just used some other kind from a sedan and trimmed them to size with a saw (or something like that). That's the kind of cost-saving initiative I like to hear from my mechanic!

and yet you have the nerve to have a go at procomps quality???

patrol28 wrote:

Tom0 wrote:My blokes are fitting my kit for $400 - which i reckon is nothing special in $$, but I trust them.

I decided I liked them when, after I explained how damn cheap I was, they got clever instead of being lazy. One mechanic said he'd replace all my shocker. My guy tested my shockers and said they were fine, just the bushes were worn out. Instead of buying new bushes at $xx each he just used some other kind from a sedan and trimmed them to size with a saw (or something like that). That's the kind of cost-saving initiative I like to hear from my mechanic!

and yet you have the nerve to have a go at procomps quality???

The procomps came off ages ago... the only lasted about 10k and were shot. These new ones are still good but I've chewed out the bushes at the back, mainly from hitting the shocker bases with rocks. At least they have solid cast top pins instead of hollow ones made of folded tin-foil. I never did fit my bar-pin-eliminators once I realised that GOOD shockers come with GOOD pins to start with.

Procomps make baby jesus cry.

Tom0 wrote:

patrol28 wrote:

Tom0 wrote:My blokes are fitting my kit for $400 - which i reckon is nothing special in $$, but I trust them.

I decided I liked them when, after I explained how damn cheap I was, they got clever instead of being lazy. One mechanic said he'd replace all my shocker. My guy tested my shockers and said they were fine, just the bushes were worn out. Instead of buying new bushes at $xx each he just used some other kind from a sedan and trimmed them to size with a saw (or something like that). That's the kind of cost-saving initiative I like to hear from my mechanic!

and yet you have the nerve to have a go at procomps quality???

The procomps came off ages ago... the only lasted about 10k and were shot. These new ones are still good but I've chewed out the bushes at the back, mainly from hitting the shocker bases with rocks. At least they have solid cast top pins instead of hollow ones made of folded tin-foil. I never did fit my bar-pin-eliminators once I realised that GOOD shockers come with GOOD pins to start with.

Procomps make baby jesus cry.

Morning TomO. So what length Procomps were you running with what lift? I am wondering if you were running the wrong shock for your lift.
How much did you space out your bump stops so to not over compress your Procomps?