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RUFF wrote:and i also cant run water in the tyres as efectivly

ive never heard of doing this b4, what is the reason for doing this?

Its a tractor

oh ok, but still, what does the water in the tyres do? extra weight down low?

marin wrote::rofl:

oh ok, but still, what does the water in the tyres do? extra weight down low?

bingo

weight down low = lower CoG

Correct. We have only just started running water in the New lockless Monster and it makes for a lot of stability. It can make a rig climb better as well with more water in the front tyres. Although it is a little harder on components. I have not run water yet but want to try it out for comp work. With the second airs it is just a little hard to get the water in and back out. With an external beadlock you can just unbolt the ring and let the water out.

thanks for the explanation

I'm running a new product on the market - it's not on the shelves yet, but look for it soon - it's called De-Hyro. To cut all the scientific jargon down, its water that's been treated with a de-ioniser, then humidified and dehydrated, to form an odourless, colourless yet highly effective way to balance and weigh down your tyres. I've been pretty happy with the results, but the product has not been tested in a comp environment, so if anybody is interested in this new and exciting product, let me know.

Area54 wrote:I'm running a new product on the market - it's not on the shelves yet, but look for it soon - it's called De-Hyro. To cut all the scientific jargon down, its water that's been treated with a de-ioniser, then humidified and dehydrated, to form an odourless, colourless yet highly effective way to balance and weigh down your tyres. I've been pretty happy with the results, but the product has not been tested in a comp environment, so if anybody is interested in this new and exciting product, let me know.

ROTFLMAO "dehydrated water"........is it April 1st already?

Area54 wrote:I'm running a new product on the market - it's not on the shelves yet, but look for it soon - it's called De-Hyro. To cut all the scientific jargon down, its water that's been treated with a de-ioniser, then humidified and dehydrated, to form an odourless, colourless yet highly effective way to balance and weigh down your tyres. I've been pretty happy with the results, but the product has not been tested in a comp environment, so if anybody is interested in this new and exciting product, let me know.

YES, I AM VERY EXITED TO RUN THIS IN A COMP FOR YOU AND ADVERTISE YOUR PRODUCT ON MY RIG!!!!!!!. In return i would like my entry fee and travel cost covered!!!

POS wrote:

Area54 wrote:I'm running a new product on the market - it's not on the shelves yet, but look for it soon - it's called De-Hyro. To cut all the scientific jargon down, its water that's been treated with a de-ioniser, then humidified and dehydrated, to form an odourless, colourless yet highly effective way to balance and weigh down your tyres. I've been pretty happy with the results, but the product has not been tested in a comp environment, so if anybody is interested in this new and exciting product, let me know.

YES, I AM VERY EXITED TO RUN THIS IN A COMP FOR YOU AND ADVERTISE YOUR PRODUCT ON MY RIG!!!!!!!. In return i would like my entry fee and travel cost covered!!!

You're on! We'll have to keep it quiet though, as the product has not been released publicly in a retail environment, some comp testing would be advantageous, and if everyone hears about this new product, everyone will want it and expect the same deal. Be good in the long run though, will certainly help with stability and performance.

Also have another product that will help to prevent the De-Hyro from sloshing in the carcass - it's patented name is Q-Foam, it is made from high grade quantum foam plasma - all new materials (not recycled). De-Hyro is environmentally friendly, so spillages are not a problem in sensitve areas.

From what i was once taught at trade school the reason for water in the tyres is mostly for ballast to improve traction. I think there is a proper ratio but i cant remember off the top of my head

Hey Pos

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Thonger wrote:Hey Pos

I've got a cousin in nigeria that needs to move some money off shore into someone else's bank account as he's related to the late president who was overthrown in a coup by the military junta and.....

GDAY CUZ!... methinks your cuz knows my cuz... i had fun with one of these dorks the other day... acted all keen and was getting emails back in minutes giving further instructions...

I run Heavy water from the Lucas heights recyling plant .
Gives more weight for less water.

Bazzle

bazzle wrote:I run Heavy water from the Lucas heights recyling plant .
Gives more weight for less water.

Bazzle

You prolly wouldn't need the Q-FOAM as your (dont want to get picky, but Lucas's products are inferior to De-HYRO) weighting fluid would have more anti-slush compounds dissolved in solution.

POS wrote:

Area54 wrote:I'm running a new product on the market - it's not on the shelves yet, but look for it soon - it's called De-Hyro. To cut all the scientific jargon down, its water that's been treated with a de-ioniser, then humidified and dehydrated, to form an odourless, colourless yet highly effective way to balance and weigh down your tyres. I've been pretty happy with the results, but the product has not been tested in a comp environment, so if anybody is interested in this new and exciting product, let me know.

YES, I AM VERY EXITED TO RUN THIS IN A COMP FOR YOU AND ADVERTISE YOUR PRODUCT ON MY RIG!!!!!!!. In return i would like my entry fee and travel cost covered!!!

hey can i run this stuff too ??

i thought about this for doing backflips on a motobike. fill the rear tyre with water/sand/whatever fits.

383FJ45 wrote:i thought about this for doing backflips on a motobike. fill the rear tyre with water/sand/whatever fits.

you should be making shit loads of $$ riding on the crusty tour if you can backflip ...man

yeah ill fill my rear tyres up and backflip my FJ.

with the weight of that engine of yours youll prob be doing front flips

with barrel rolls from torque!

the 383 actually weighs nearly 100kgs lighter than the 2F

so do the tractor tyres get full all the way or only around 50% and the rest air to seat the bead?

383FJ45 wrote:so do the tractor tyres get full all the way or only around 50% and the rest air to seat the bead?

I always thought it was just a couple of inches in the bottom.

If memory serves me correctly we used to half fill the rear tyres on the tractors at home. All I can say for sure is that it take a long time to fill a tractor tyre. It did make a big difference though as we had a blade fitted to the front for clearing. Much easier to push over those trees


Cheers
Paul

383FJ45 wrote:so do the tractor tyres get full all the way or only around 50% and the rest air to seat the bead?

My grand pa used to do this to his tractor when we had a farm...

All I remember is when he tried to drive up the front steps of his house (don't ask) he couldn't get up so he put about 2 - 3" of water in the rear tyres and about .5 - 1" in the front and made it up the stairs really easy...


I remember he got all excited about it and did the same to the front end loader and the ride lawn mower

I'll ask him tomorrow if there was any other reason why he did that apart from making the tyres weigh more...

I guess it's why people put Nitrogen in there car tyres to make them lighter farms / 4x4ers would want more weight...

So why not pump yr tyres up with a gas substance that weighs more them compressed air???? Or maybe some one could create an attachment that allows fluid to be pumped into the tyre while it’s being inflated???

That De-HYRO stuff sounds a little.... hmmmmm I guess it's like dehydrated fruit.... but what re hydrates it when it's in the tyre and why does it make it heaver?

Or maybe some one could create an attachment that allows fluid to be pumped into the tyre while it’s being inflated???

so we could put a hose attachment onto the rim then, and it would mak it mch easier.

only kiddin, id would be easier to just pop one bead off, pour in the desired amount, then re inflate and re seat the bead.

ozy1 wrote:

Or maybe some one could create an attachment that allows fluid to be pumped into the tyre while it’s being inflated???

so we could put a hose attachment onto the rim then, and it would mak it mch easier.

only kiddin, id would be easier to just pop one bead off, pour in the desired amount, then re inflate and re seat the bead.

There is allready a tool that does this.

And if you dont have one you can fill the tyres without poping a bead.

" guess it's why people put Nitrogen in there car tyres to make them lighter"


i think that nitrogen molecules are larger than air molecules, so nitrogen leaks slower than air....

i thought the nitrogen also hade something to do with keeping to tyre cooler whilst driving, and also lighter too i believe, which reduaces rolling resistance, therefore lower rolling resistance and cooler running lead to a longer life.

ozy1 wrote:i thought the nitrogen also hade something to do with keeping to tyre cooler whilst driving, and also lighter too i believe, which reduaces rolling resistance, therefore lower rolling resistance and cooler running lead to a longer life.

I always believed that its just another Gimick and that most places probably just filled it with air and charged you an extra $5.00 a tyre!

Water in tractor tyres has been around for nearly as long as tractors themselves!!!!

Its very old news, but it does work!!

Try ripping a paddock without water in the rear tyres of a tractor and you will soon realise just how much of a difference it makes!