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hey guys im getting an 80 chassis and planing it put my 60 body on it. has anyone dont this before? would it be hard to get engineered any help would be great
cheers tyson

You would have some drama's re the suspension. Just to begin with.

joel HJ60 wrote:You would have some drama's re the suspension. Just to begin with.

Care to elaborate?

RAY185 wrote:

joel HJ60 wrote:You would have some drama's re the suspension. Just to begin with.

Care to elaborate?

i think he means if you use just the 80 chassis, you'll have a hard time getting the leaf springs from the 60 series to line up on the chassis, as it'll pinch in at the wrong points etc.

i think the original poster was looking at using an 80 series chassis and suspension

i think the original poster was looking at using an 80 series chassis and suspension[/quote]

yeah i want the 80 series suspention under it. i have been told it will be easyer to just move body mounts rather than put the 80 diffs and suspention under the 60 chassis. im just looking for a few more opinions

I looked into this a while ago and got the drawings of the 80 series and 60 series chassis' to see how different the body mounts were. Didn't seem like a huge task to get the 60 series body to mount up to the 80 series chassis.

I still have the drawings which show all dimensions if you haven't already got them.

Cheers

I'm sure i've seen a post on ih8mud.com of someone doing this, but buggered if i can find it now. The 80 series chassis is a longer wheel base, so the wheels won't quite fit in the arches if you're planning on keeping it a wagon

Whilst I'm all for doing it yourself, I recommend you sell the 60 and buy an 80 as they have come down in price substantially of late and you will save yourself a huge amount of work and end up with a far better vehicle. Just my humble opinion of course.

Shifting the body mounts around is easy enough.

As for moving the rear axle, I would trim the front of the front guard and the rear of the rear guard arches.

This will accomodate bigger tyres and more lift and the longer wheelbase, without too much hassle, will also allow for better approach and departure angles.

Run big fibreglass flares to cover up the cutting you have done, on the guard arches, modify some 60 series sahara flares. (you will need a couple of inches of flares on either side to cover the tyres as 80 diffs are a bit wider than 40)

It will look great.

i say give it a go. 60 looks far better than 80(personal preference) moving the body mounts should be easy enough. i did a spring over conversion on my 60, looks great but after finishing it should have converted it to 80 series coil on 60 chassis. probably would have been just as easy but far better articulation out of lifted coil springs, sprung over drives great on road but not enough travel in bush. As far as engineers certificate goes what they dont know dont hurt them, been cruisen on un-engineered sprung over 60 for quite a while now.

60inDEISEL wrote:i say give it a go. 60 looks far better than 80(personal preference) moving the body mounts should be easy enough. i did a spring over conversion on my 60, looks great but after finishing it should have converted it to 80 series coil on 60 chassis. probably would have been just as easy but far better articulation out of lifted coil springs, sprung over drives great on road but not enough travel in bush. As far as engineers certificate goes what they dont know dont hurt them, been cruisen on un-engineered sprung over 60 for quite a while now.

Only problem with that is. If you have an accident, especially if you kill someone, they will know pretty quickly. Then you will be F..ked. Even though it was prob done properly and safely.

60inDEISEL wrote:i say give it a go. 60 looks far better than 80(personal preference) moving the body mounts should be easy enough. i did a spring over conversion on my 60, looks great but after finishing it should have converted it to 80 series coil on 60 chassis. probably would have been just as easy but far better articulation out of lifted coil springs, sprung over drives great on road but not enough travel in bush. As far as engineers certificate goes what they dont know dont hurt them, been cruisen on un-engineered sprung over 60 for quite a while now.

Yeah but im in qld and our road rules are f**ked you cant do anything, and plus im a P plater so they will pick on me enough and only having 1 point makes me want it all leagel. and i just want my 60 to be better than my mates..

I could see a body transfer becoming a long and costly process. your probably better off just fitting coil suspension to the 60. If your chasing more power i'd go with a 12HT in place of the 2H. I mean realisticly the only major differences were the suspension and better engines.

ShortyFortyTwo wrote:I could see a body transfer becoming a long and costly process. your probably better off just fitting coil suspension to the 60. If your chasing more power i'd go with a 12HT in place of the 2H. I mean realisticly the only major differences were the suspension and better engines.

oh yeah dont worrie im gettin rid of the 2h asap. i want to swap my moto cross bike for a 12h-t if anyone is interested. i have spoken to a few people and ever one seems to think it would be easyer to move body mounts than put the coil under the 60 chassis and would be easyer to get engineered

I'm not familar with this conversion but I can forsee alot (and I mean alot) of problems, Like the fact that the wheel bases are different, much of the wiring will need to be done again, matching the gear stick to the hole in the tunnel, matching the 60 steering colum to the 80 box, finding radiator hoses to fit, matching the fan to the placement of the radiator, fitting from and rear bar work. That's just what I though of off the top of my head in 2 minutes.

A coil conversion is reasonable cheap and if done properly will give you no trouble, you can also install a more offroad based suspension setup giving you better performance.

ShortyFortyTwo wrote:I'm not familar with this conversion but I can forsee alot (and I mean alot) of problems, Like the fact that the wheel bases are different, much of the wiring will need to be done again, matching the gear stick to the hole in the tunnel, matching the 60 steering colum to the 80 box, finding radiator hoses to fit, matching the fan to the placement of the radiator, fitting from and rear bar work. That's just what I though of off the top of my head in 2 minutes.

A coil conversion is reasonable cheap and if done properly will give you no trouble, you can also install a more offroad based suspension setup giving you better performance.

yeah i can see where your comming from but i can fix the wheel base issue and the gear stick issue with an angle grinder in a few minutes. im using a 60 series motor and box so the wiring should be right. i can make mounts for the radiator and all my own bar work. but i know the steering will be an issue but hopefully i can work some thing out but thanks for your input
cheers tyson

ShortyFortyTwo wrote:I could see a body transfer becoming a long and costly process. your probably better off just fitting coil suspension to the 60.

YEP, particularly true in queensland!

Lowtideride on IH8MUD.com has put a 60 series body on an 80 chassis, search either under Lowtideride or ProjectUranus on the 60 series wagons section.

Warren