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I have a set of these on my Vitara (came with it when I bought it a month ago), and wondering if anyone has any more info on them ie Rover year model's they fit, offset, etc.

Same as pictured:

hhmmm, do you actually have them yet?

cause even i can measure offset

hhhmm, is that 6 wheel studs on the spare?

and by the way....thats a big high lift jack!!

def90 wrote:hhhmm, is that 6 wheel studs on the spare?

looking at the rear diff nugget and wheel track, perhaps somethings smelling Toyota...

or are they just removable centre caps?

The whole shape of the nugget is not Salisbury.

Removable centre caps.



None of the Rover Fan's have heard of the Camel Trophy?

Everybody has heard of the camel trophy.

Are you asking what Rovers your Suzuki rims will fit onto?

The Suzuki rims that I've had experience with, including early steel Vitara rims all had a 5 on 5.5inch bolt pattern. These will not fit onto my Defender as the Defender has a much larger bolt circle. I don't know what the Defender pattern is and I couldn't be bothered looking it up, but at a rough measure it's somewhere between 5 on 6to6.5 inches.

Look like Bali alloys

suxukis have the same pattern as Ford F series with 5 stud IIRC

Yep, I vote knock offs of something too. RJ Reynolds who owned the Camel bracd could see the writing on the wall in relation to the anti smoking lobby and tried to diversify the Camel brand in europe in the 1990's. They set up Camel trophy stores that sold adventure clothing etc. ( I actually have a camel trophy wristwatch from 1993) Looking at the rims on the landy, I'd vote a german rim also from the early 90's, a time when the camel trophy was very popular in the wider 4WD commumity.

However, I'd guess the rims you have are copies of these european rims.

To the "camel" LR 109 though -

Camel trophy cars were set up land rover special vehicles and never, ever used alloys. They generally only ever used stock defender steel rims, even on discoveries.

The photo of the series car you have posted is very likely not a camel trophy vehicle, camel trophy only used series III 109" cars as support vehicles for one year - 1983 - in Zaire.

http://www.cameltrophy.co.uk/history/1983/Ziare_LR1.jpg

You can see the bull bar and roof rack are incorrect so I vote it's a mock up.

Genuine Camel cars are still worth heaps of money in the UK and europe.

bullshit
no defender ran alloys in the camel
rangies where in 87 i believe and they may have had 3 spoke alloys not sure
but they arnt any rover rim
and bbs never supplied factory rims for rover

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Gwagensteve wrote:
The photo of the series car you have posted is very likely not a camel trophy vehicle, camel trophy only used series III 109" cars as support vehicles for one year - 1983 - in Zaire.

http://www.cameltrophy.co.uk/history/1983/Ziare_LR1.jpg

You can see the bull bar and roof rack are incorrect so I vote it's a mock up.

Genuine Camel cars are still worth heaps of money in the UK and europe.

Gwagensteve, yes the Landy in the photo has nothing to do with the Camel Trophy. The guy says the wheels are Italian BBS -- like you said, probably a marketing strategy to sell wheels to Euro off-roaders. Read about the vehicle here:
http://www.landroversonly.com/forums/f3 ... 9-a-17309/

Read my reveiw of the Camel Trophy DVD here.

http://www.bbmotorsports.com.au/prod45.htm

Can you beleive at the height of its popularity, the organisers received over 1 million competitor entries each year!!!!!!!

uninformed wrote:bullshit
no defender ran alloys in the camel
rangies where in 87 i believe and they may have had 3 spoke alloys not sure
but they arnt any rover rim

Actually in 1987 the rangies ran the 6" standard rangie steel wheels.


And the Defender support vehicles for the 1997 Camel Trophy had factory alloy wheels on them.


Everything on the vehicles you could order from the factory except the colour.

Also rangies were used in the 1981 and 1982 Camel Trophies.

Matt N wrote: Italian BBS

Aren't BBS German: (?)

http://www.bbs.com/en/company/overview.html

Is "Italian BBS" a euphemism for "Balinese BBS?"


Steve.

Gwagensteve wrote:

Matt N wrote: Italian BBS

Aren't BBS German: (?)

http://www.bbs.com/en/company/overview.html

Is "Italian BBS" a euphemism for "Balinese BBS?"

Sorry dont know, just quoting what the guy on the Landroversonly forum said.