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I keep breakin my left hand cv in my 80.. last one broke VERY easy.... i always seem to break left ones.. right hand one has been clickin for 3 years and still going!?

Where do i get stronger ones from????

Cheers Ray

locktup4x4.com.au would probably be able to get the 80s longfields for you.

I'm about to order mine soon from bobby long
He said they will fit
CHeers Dan

Whos bobbny long? and wat wil fit?

Longfields CV & Axles
http://www.longfieldsuperaxles.com/
Cheers Dan

Longfield 80 series Chromolly's... get them from the link mud000 gave

You can get them through us at www.locktup4x4.com.au just ask for a price we save you any dramas and bobby is helping us a lot.

Dave

yeah if i were you i would go longfields. the warranty speaks for itself.
also, they do an 80 series super set. which is front axles also. its not much more $$ and i think worth it.
the guys at locked up have been awesome to deal with, i got a couple of things through them now. they have parts to me faster then shops in sydney do.

you can also get diff armour to suit the 80 front diff through these guys, and a solid pinion spacer also, incase your worried about your centre.

i have the solid pinion spacer and run 42s with no issue as yet.

DIRTY ROCK STAR wrote:
i have the solid pinion spacer and run 42s with no issue as yet.

but how many tracks have you done? 2

What does the solid pinon spacer do.

I too am in need of CV's
I sent an email to them and they recomend the for off road use only.

Why would they say that?

Also what is the diference between the diferent types.

FJ 80
27 pline
30 spline.
Which ones do people recommend for the 80 series.
Also are the bearings worth geting.

Bobby says they are for offroad use only on the constant 4WD models as they can heat up the brass bush inside the spindle.

80 series are 24 spline

Chrismb wrote:Bobby says they are for offroad use only on the constant 4WD models as they can heat up the brass bush inside the spindle.

80 series are 24 spline

So they are not necesarily better?
My truck is not a daily driver. I generally only use it when I am going off road. Still these trips are often to places like fraser.
(250km road trip to get there)
So even though I would consider my truck as only offroad use you still have to get it there. Therfore 80 percent of my driving would be on road.

I would think that everyone's truck would do most of there k's on bitumen unless they have a trailer.

So are these CV's the Answer?

More info please.

Bobby's CV's will work. Another reason he says "Off Road Use" is because after 20-30 thousand mile the cv joint shows sign of wear on Full Time 4WD Vehicles.

Jason

locktup4x4 wrote:Bobby's CV's will work. Another reason he says "Off Road Use" is because after 20-30 thousand mile the cv joint shows sign of wear on Full Time 4WD Vehicles.

Jason

any more than a genuine one when used on constant 4x4?

bruiser wrote:

locktup4x4 wrote:Bobby's CV's will work. Another reason he says "Off Road Use" is because after 20-30 thousand mile the cv joint shows sign of wear on Full Time 4WD Vehicles.

Jason

any more than a genuine one when used on constant 4x4?

most likely to an extent.

for maximum strength, bobby would be aiming to make the material softer and more ductile (less likely to break from shock loads). that's what the original heat treated ones were.

Nothing a part-time 4x4 kit wouldn't fix - a good idea anyway IMO

dogbreath_48 wrote:Nothing a part-time 4x4 kit wouldn't fix - a good idea anyway IMO

plus if you really need stronger 80 CV's, what's the alternative? on road wear, but bulletproof CV's, or blow CV's every other trip out.

The material is stonger but softer to take heavy shock loads. So the softer material show signs of wear much sooner then a harder cv designed for high mileage. But for a trail rig that is driven to and from the trail you would be ok IF that all the road use it would see.

Jason

Just part time the 80.

What other options are there for CV's.
I'm starting to wonder if the longs are for me.
At the end of the day most of my driving is on the road.

I can do treated CV's at reasonable prices for these. Currently have a few sets runnin round in some 80 series winch challenge trucks & the response has been good,hasn't broken 1 yet. PM me or ring me for prices if you are interested. Cheers steve.

Which parts are softer.
Will the slpines wear quicker?
What about the hub gears they offer.
Are they in the same boat. Stronger, but wear quicker?

The wear occurs in the bell "Internals" where the cage and ball bearings are. Bobby said after about 20-30 thousand miles they may start making a little noise.
Hub gears or drive flanges aren't a problem. I don't think you will have any issues with these. Bobby said its the cv that shows the wear.

You may have the same issues with a treated cv.

Jason

Yaeh I would assume heat treated cv's would be the same.
the idea of the heat treatment is to soften the material is it?

The slpines they leave untreated/hard.

Sorry about all the questions just trying to understand the whole story.

other question to ask yourself.
how much do you pay for a replacement CV?
bobbys were quite reasonably priced.

Yuri does heat treated CVs also.
but for price and warranty and my needs i went to bobby.

Just throw a set of manual hubs on ur 80 and go the longfield axles/CV's and hub gears and hav a 98% bullet proof front end. All the front drivetrain remains stationary with the hubs in free position so no CV wear at all.

I am thinking about gettin a full axle/birfield/hubgear set for my bundera front end, Ive heard from others that to get the lifetime warranty on the long CV's u need to hav his hubgears also as when ur standard aisins shatter they will strip the splines straight off the longfield CV?? Cheers

Yep mate you need the hub gears to get the warranty on the birf if it is the spline that lets go.

on a 80 how many spline is the shaft that goes into the free wheeling hub ? Can hilux hubs be used to convert to part time ?

hulsty wrote:on a 80 how many spline is the shaft that goes into the free wheeling hub ? Can hilux hubs be used to convert to part time ?

Yerp. i ran hubs off a solid front 4runner on mine for a while

They shud be 30 spline into hub same as hilux, lux IFS hubs wont work tho as ther 26 spline.