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hottiemonsters suspension delema

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:07 pm
by hottiemonster
ok it has been determined that mine is not a 3" suspension lift (more like 1.5) and i have the option to change it over to make it a 3" lift.

at the moment the 34" JTs dont rub that much and it drives quite nicely on the road. Leaving it the way it is will allow me to easily get insurance becasue it isnt that high.

what i am trying to determine is whether or not to make the car higher.

advantages would be increased travel and less rubbing (rubbing on front and rear of flares will be eradicated but usuall rubbing will probably still occur in the normal part of the wheel arch.

most people say that to run 35s you need 3" suspension and 2" body, well it seems like i can run the 34.6 tyres quite fine now with what i have.

i am stuck in a major delema to decide whether or not to leave it alone, but if i wanna go to a true 35" tyre it will have to be lifted more.

here is a poll to help me out with what people think, becasue i really dont know on this one, i have thought about it for ages but cant make up my mind.

more travel and height would be great benefit offroad but make it worse on road as the car is a daily driver.

also possibly i will need new shocks too and caster with the extra height so it is going to cost extra.


SUMMARY:

Leaving it the way it is:
get insurance.
better road handling for daily use.
no more money to spend on lift and associated things.
cant run a true 35, just fits a JT
when it starts to sag, it will be a nightmare and would need to be changed straight away to run the same tyres.


Lifting it more:
no insuracne unless engineers and change of companies
fit a true 35" tyre
decrease road handling but increase off road ability a fair bit.
more of a cop target.
look even stupider now with 31s on till i get some 33s

Re: hottiemonsters suspension delema

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:14 pm
by BRT
hottiemonster wrote:SUMMARY:

Leaving it the way it is:
get insurance.
better road handling for daily use.
no more money to spend on lift and associated things.
cant run a true 35, just fits a JT


Lifting it more:
no insuracne unless engineers and change of companies
fit a true 35" tyre
decrease road handling but increase off road ability a fair bit.
more of a cop target.
look even stupider now with 31s on till i get some 33s



Read that back dude it sounds like you have made your mind up! :D

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:15 pm
by hottiemonster
here is 2 pics of the ride height now with the JTs on

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here a two flex shots at the moment, though the back right is in the air a little to see what the maximum suspension travel is.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:23 pm
by antt
leave the farken thing the way it is and just drive it, i bet its heaps more capable than you know it yet having only driven it and owned it for such a short time.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:25 pm
by +dj_hansen+
Dude.. all your answers should be here, in your orignal "how do i lift my gq" mass posta/pada-thon

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1208&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Have u tried fitting a 35" with your current set up? Why spend money on more lift, when u havent tried 35"s on your current set up?

I spose it comes down to how far u wanna go with tyre sizes, insurance, road handling etc etc...

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:28 pm
by +dj_hansen+
Or you could spend heaps of money on lifting it again and again.. and drive around your bommodore as your daily driver

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:31 pm
by hottiemonster
+dj_hansen+ wrote:Or you could spend heaps of money on lifting it again and again.. and drive around your bommodore as your daily driver


bommodore is now my brother's. :finger:

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:37 pm
by +dj_hansen+
From trading post:
DATSUN 120Y 1978, powder blue, sedan, 155,000 original kms, AHC-118, good working order, $400neg (03) 95835351 Cheltenham

There u go... registered and everything, weld the rear diff, let that baby fly :twisted:

Datsun Sunny 1981, 4spd man, new motor, only 4 mths old, has had rw done 6mths ago, runs well, $500

Datsun Stanza 1982 auto, BHI-967 $250 (03) 94446372 Greensborough

Hrm.. edit button is getting a work out tonite
Like i said, your cash, your decision.. do what is gonna make you the most happy with your rig in the end!

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 9:51 pm
by N*A*M
peter, don't %#&@ lift it anymore or i'm gonna have to go chop ya. just drive it as it is now and don't touch anything! i don't wanna log in one day and have marin tell me you rolled your mav and ended up in hospital. you've already come close to flopping with the current set up. learn the limits of the truck first. also, insurance and roadworthiness is a very valuable asset.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:05 pm
by antt
lol nam, where is the thread that that quote came from?

EDIT-> don't worry found it, search is ya friend, not many threads mentioning rolling fireplaces :lol:

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:16 pm
by -Scott-
If you are really worried about the sag, lift it some more.

But will extra lift give you more articulation?

But your original summary reads like you are inclined to leave it...

Cheers,

Scott

(with a 3" lift at the rear, and plans for a 2" body lift - yes, the 31's look poxy...)

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 10:53 pm
by Guy
The less lift you can run for any given tyre height the better ..

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:20 am
by bigsteve
I say lift it

Just so we can see more flex shots Yeah!!

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:38 am
by hottiemonster
i have decided to leave it alone, but i wanna see if i cant put a slightly taller spring in the rear to bring the back up a little.

insurance is the main priority here a believe and with having it 3" forget about the insurance (current)

now i just need to list the winch etc on the policy.

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:28 am
by bogged
N*A*M wrote:learn the limits of the truck first. also, insurance and roadworthiness is a very valuable asset.


No better advice on tis board...

And I up my bet to $300

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2004 9:32 am
by V8Patrol
hottiemonster wrote:i have decided to leave it alone, but i wanna see if i cant put a slightly taller spring in the rear to bring the back up a little.

insurance is the main priority here a believe and with having it 3" forget about the insurance (current)

now i just need to list the winch etc on the policy.



Smart move

Before long you have to decide as to how much further into the sport you are actually going.
My rig is now bodering on becoming a trailer queen, the mods I have planned will push it beyond registerable and will certainly make it unfriendly to drive the roads with.
It may pay to start thinking of another unit purely for offroad use.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:15 pm
by A1
EASY FIX BY MY 3 1/2 " LIFT SPRINGS :armsup:



i FITTED 37" S WITH EM AND 2" B LIFT :twisted:

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:22 pm
by marin
pete, you could always join a club and get one of those specialist 4b insurance companies through the club.........

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:29 pm
by 308LUX
bogged wrote:
N*A*M wrote:learn the limits of the truck first. also, insurance and roadworthiness is a very valuable asset.


No better advice on tis board...

And I up my bet to $300


& i will up you $100 :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:19 pm
by ToNkA
Lift it!

Lift it as high as you can!

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:46 pm
by bogged
marin wrote:pete, you could always join a club and get one of those specialist 4b insurance companies through the club.........


have to be over 25, have to be legal, and thats no better than where he is now.


Tonka said it, 12 inch body, and 12 in sus, get some 54s under there, get some 5.32s in there and go...

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:38 pm
by -Mick-
How about choppin the $#@& out of the guards now to fit bigger tyres :roll: Where's that option :?:

Perhaps you have already chopped the guards but there's obviously more to cut.

I try to avoid your threads cause they're...... ummmmmm... kinda repetitive :finger: Nothing personal but ya know :roll:

Do an 80's style truck with too much lift :? You'll be cooler than mr. T :roll:

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 6:54 pm
by 308LUX
its way too low as is...you can only get 34"s under it :shock: ...

LIFT THE ASS OUT OF IT !!!

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:13 pm
by ToNkA
Lift it! Lift it till there is no more to lift! Then lift it more!

Then keep lifting it till it soooo high its cool.

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 11:24 pm
by robbie
:rofl: soon there will be a thread "how do I lower my mav, its too high"

Re: hottiemonsters suspension delema

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 1:28 am
by Daisy
hottiemonster wrote:ok it has been determined that mine is not a 3" suspension lift (more like 1.5) and i have the option to change it over to make it a 3" lift.


I have a 3 inch suspension and 2 inch body lift and from the pics it looks as if the amount of space in the wheel arch is normal compared to mine (lots of room) I'll get a pic later on and u can compare.

What spring settin did you get? light / med /heavy dudty? and what brand?

Mine were dobinson medium duties and lifted the truck quite significatnly.

If it helps ill make measurements ???

Tom

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:35 am
by Drafty
Go down to Cheezy and ask him for advice. :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:43 am
by V8Patrol
Drafty wrote:Go down to Cheezy and ask him for advice. :lol:


I 2nd this post :D

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 10:49 am
by turps
Bugger stuffing around with it and moding this and that. Just drive it and save the coin to do the maintenance.

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:36 pm
by bazzle
Sure looks like a 3" lift etc with those tyres on the pix!!

What makes you thinks otherwise? Where did you measure?

Bazzle