Outer Limits 4x4 Board

the 2.8's blown so just need advice on wat u guys think i should convert to...... been lookin at commodore v6's not sure really wat else is best for it.

i travel at least an hour on highway everyday so has to be fairly economical and does anyone know some good engine conversion places in south east qld would also like to do it under 5g if possible

any advice will be great....cheers

hey mate i had a V6 commodore motor in my lux running the standard G52 hilux box it wasn't the best on fuel enconomy was using about 16ltr/100kms but plenty of pulling power also depends how heavy ya right foot is, and will u be doing much 4wding in the truck?

1kz-te. 3 litres turbo diesel, from surf half cut import. Almost a perfect nut and bolt swap. You get dash, whole front half, axles and gearbox.

my vote lies with a 3rz, almost direct bolt in(move engine mounts back, 3rzbellhousing bolted to g52box) easy to wire, plenty of power and decentish economy....

If you got plenty of money, want to impress the boys with the noise, have no mortgage and are good at putting a big square peg in a round hole, go the UZ V8.

If you want something that fits in the bay like a dick in a shirt sleeve and is cheap to repair and very reliable, go the 3.8 VR V6.

1Uz is cheap...and plenty parts available.

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hmm yeah not left with many options.... how hard is it gonna be to get parts n repairs if i end up with another jap motor like the 1kz-te or sumthin???

i do a little 4wding maybe once every 2months and do trips to moreton or fraser once a year so nothing extreme but i do like to push it wen i can. and i do hav bigger plans for it eventually so would like sumthin with a bit of grunt.

anyone know of good conversion joint i can go hava word to???

Try pats v6 conversions for the conversion kit. I have the 3.8 v6 with a turbo 700 auto in mine and the fuel economy is good.

The best economy you are going to get is the 1kz-te and these are not just an import motor they were also fitted to Aussie delivered Toyotas so parts are not an issue.

The commo V6 although possibly one of the better fitting and more common conversion they are not known for fuel economy. The 1UZ V8 Toyota engine actually gets much better economy but its a very tight fit.

Rebuild the 2.8 and turbo it. You will get better fuel economy than you did before and come out ahead on $$.

I also drive a 04 V8 100 series landcruiser so i am comparing fuel economy with it. I guess a lot of things to me are economical as I am lucky to get 18l to 100Ks out of the cruiser . Loving the fuel prices at the moment

I get 15lts to 100ks for normal driving out of my hilux with the 1uz.

IMHO a V6 conversion is a waste of time and money. Its bugger all more work to do a V8 conversion and you end up with a way better rig in the long run. 1 of the reasons why I say this is every v6 conversion I have seen done still has the same over heating issues as V8 conversions. They still have the same drive line strength issues etc etc etc. So the only real differance is with a V8 you will need to move a few other things out of the way and plan a few more things out first, big deal.

Depending what motor you use will depend on the cost. If my 1st 1uz didn`t come up at the rite time for what seamed like a bargin I would have dropped a 350 chev on straight gas in to mine.

I dunno if this has been done but have you considered a 1 or 2JZ supra engine big power, I dont reakon it would be harder then a commo V6 install

im swapping in a 3.0TD motor from a KZN130 surf halfcut into my LN106.

its almost a direct swap- you need to move the mounts backwards 40mm, get an adaptor plate to bolt the R151 gearbox to the hilux G52 transfer case and thats it.

The wiring- you have to modify the loom to get rid of the ADD shit and make it so there is one wire from the transfer case to the dash to turn on the 4wd light, and thats pretty much it. Just unplug the hilux loom under the front seats, and remove everyting forwards. Do the same for the halfcut, and swap them.

Just for comparisons, the 2.8D makes 60kw/198nm (when new!) and uses 12-14L/100.

the 3.0TD makes 86kw/285nm - thats without any intercooling, big exhaust or chips, and uses 10-12L/100


I paid $6200 for my halfcut, delivered to work in adelaide from Qld (it was an 800kg 2mx1.5mx1.2m pallet!)

Failing that, ive got a 345,000km old 3L motor thats now surplus to requirements!

ferrit wrote:im swapping in a 3.0TD motor from a KZN130 surf halfcut into my LN106.

its almost a direct swap- you need to move the mounts backwards 40mm, get an adaptor plate to bolt the R151 gearbox to the hilux G52 transfer case and thats it.

The wiring- you have to modify the loom to get rid of the ADD shit and make it so there is one wire from the transfer case to the dash to turn on the 4wd light, and thats pretty much it. Just unplug the hilux loom under the front seats, and remove everyting forwards. Do the same for the halfcut, and swap them.

Just for comparisons, the 2.8D makes 60kw/198nm (when new!) and uses 12-14L/100.

the 3.0TD makes 86kw/285nm - thats without any intercooling, big exhaust or chips, and uses 10-12L/100


I paid $6200 for my halfcut, delivered to work in adelaide from Qld (it was an 800kg 2mx1.5mx1.2m pallet!)

Failing that, ive got a 345,000km old 3L motor thats now surplus to requirements!

dude i dont no what ya got them figures from but m8 there is no way ive ever seen a 2.8 that uses 14lt per 100. mine uses around 10lt per 100 drive hard or soft. maybe a bit more when in low due to it revvin more...

mine quite reguarly eats 13-14L/100

31" MTZs and 345,000kms tho.

And i cane the shit out of it!

yeh dont doubt ya. mine uses 10 per 100 and has 320 on the clock and i give her numbers now she has them crawler gears too. they just keep going and going. touch wood!

at least its a little nicer on the wallet than the 79 series... that uses 24L/100 constantly!

I vote 3rz

Go the 3rz or 1uz the commo motor is a waste of time.

Has anyone ever put a dyna 200 3.7 L 4cyl in a lux

As our work truck is dam good on fuel IE constant 10L per 100kms
in a loaded truck.

have you concidered the 7MGTE 2.8 lt inline 6 efi turbo twin cam and its a bolt in fit google suprasurf for more info

stool wrote:Has anyone ever put a dyna 200 3.7 L 4cyl in a lux

As our work truck is dam good on fuel IE constant 10L per 100kms
in a loaded truck.

Not that motor, but currently installing a 4.1L 15B-F (from a Dyna) into a Hilux , the car is a complete ground up rebuild so it hasn't been tested yet (hopefully finish around christmas).

Not a drop in swap, far from it, but its not too hard considering its nearly twice the engine of the old 2L. I think the 15B-F pumps out a reasonable 290Nm@1800rpm, and 90kW@3200rpm (off hand numbers).