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Electric turbo on zook

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:53 pm
by Beauzooki
has anyone put an elecric turbo on there zook, does it give u much power gain, is it worth the money?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Electric-Intake- ... dZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/TWIN-ELECTRIC-SU ... dZViewItem

Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:02 pm
by want33s

Re: Electric turbo on zook

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 12:11 am
by PCRman
Beauzooki wrote:has anyone put an electric turbo on there zook, does it give u much power gain, is it worth the money?
To answer your question, No that aren't all that great.

The problem here is that these look like axial flow fans and are generally crap at building pressure. That being said there are some axial flow fans that do have high static pressure, just not in any of the devices on ebay.
Here is some info on fans.

http://www.hilltech.com/products/power_ ... otors.html

More typically used are for building pressure are centrifugal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_fan

or roots type positive displacement pumps
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roots_type_supercharger

On the whole electric front there was a electric roots type blower around, it was driven by 3 big ass motors and given the amount of current it would draw not really for constant use.

Also given that every time you convert energy from one form to another the gods of thermodynamics take their cut in the form of heat and noise, why bother going mechanical, electric, chemical, electric and back to mechanical when you can just get a turbo or small supercharger and cut out the middle men (entropy is a b*tch but what are you going to do)

As a future guide be wary about any product that says if can produce up to X units of anything more than twice

Discaimer: I'm happy to be corrected about anything ive said, and if anyone out there has one of these then post some before and after dyno charts showing a difference if any.

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 2:12 am
by ofr57
i heard hiclones work better ... and makes it up to 12% easier to drive through gravity :D

Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 10:11 am
by MightyMouse
Spend the money on a tuneup - plugs, leads, dissy cap and rotor etc.

That way you will actually get a benefit.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:30 pm
by Beauzooki
im trying to get a bit more power out of my zook without paying huge amounts of money and i cant get a turbo because of the new P rules so i was interested in the electric ones. are there any better ways of power gain without a huge cost or break new P plate laws? i have a stock sj70 g13ba motor.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:39 pm
by neil_se
Exhaust, carby, tune, leads. Forget the electric turbo gimmick.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 8:56 pm
by Beauzooki
done leads cap rotor, what can i do to my carby or should i replace it with an aftermarket one.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:22 pm
by Gwagensteve
Leave the motor alone other than tuneup items. It's a slow car and 1.3's are OK for what they are. Spend the money on gearing.

No, there is no way to gain a meaningful power increase without spending lots of money. Sorry, that's just a fact. Enjoy its slowness.

Changing the carby without changing the ability for the engine to move air ( i.e cam, port and compression ratio changes) Will result in some sort of compromise - off road, on angles, fuel use, hard starting... something.

Just my 2C

Steve.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:29 pm
by MightyMouse
Hard and all as it is - put the money you would spend into the piggybank and keep adding to it.

Eventually if you really want to you will be able to do the job properly instead of spending the same money on lots of junk that doesn't actually work.

Do it once - Do it right.

Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:34 pm
by Beauzooki
sounds like a good plan. Gonna need that money for fuel if it keeps going up.

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 6:56 am
by Highway-Star
One of the new P plate law stipulate that a P plater cannot drive a vehicle which has an engineered modification, i.e. it must be 100% standard. So you cannot do an engine transplant of any kind. Only mods allowed are non-certifyable types. So I don't even know if you could put TBI on it?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:24 pm
by tjm_tj
Beauzooki wrote:im trying to get a bit more power out of my zook without paying huge amounts of money and i cant get a turbo because of the new P rules so i was interested in the electric ones. are there any better ways of power gain without a huge cost or break new P plate laws? i have a stock sj70 g13ba motor.
why do you want more power????

i find my zook to powerful so u put a door stop under the pedal so it only gets half throttle

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:49 pm
by brendan_h
Highway-Star wrote:One of the new P plate law stipulate that a P plater cannot drive a vehicle which has an engineered modification, i.e. it must be 100% standard. So you cannot do an engine transplant of any kind. Only mods allowed are non-certifyable types. So I don't even know if you could put TBI on it?
that for NSW as well? must only be only up there. ive been pulled over twise by cops for RBT and have havent said anything or gave me 2nd looks and im SPOA, 32s and im a red p plater.

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 3:50 pm
by Highway-Star
brendan_h wrote:
Highway-Star wrote:One of the new P plate law stipulate that a P plater cannot drive a vehicle which has an engineered modification, i.e. it must be 100% standard. So you cannot do an engine transplant of any kind. Only mods allowed are non-certifyable types. So I don't even know if you could put TBI on it?
that for NSW as well? must only be only up there. ive been pulled over twise by cops for RBT and have havent said anything or gave me 2nd looks and im SPOA, 32s and im a red p plater.
Only know about QLD, don't know for anywhere else.