anyone seen this 4x4 site before??
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:41 pm
could work well if people posted heaps of tracks and got more localised.
http://www.4x4earth.com.au/
click on tracks
http://www.4x4earth.com.au/
click on tracks
Outer Limits 4x4 Board
Aussie Hardcore Wheelers
https://outerlimits4x4.com.au/
anyone seen this 4x4 site before??
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:42 pm
i see it as a very dangerous tool...
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:47 pm
yes and no, probably yes as it could ruin places and attract unwanted attention....
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:51 pm
The bloke who started it is my ex-boss.. 
He got himself a new Jeep Patriot (first 4x4) and decided that creating the website was a good idea.
I won't be using it. DSE don't need more ammo..
He got himself a new Jeep Patriot (first 4x4) and decided that creating the website was a good idea.
I won't be using it. DSE don't need more ammo..
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:15 pm
I'm sure it was discussed at length on here.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:00 pm
Hmmm. I wouldn't put my good tracks on it.
Only my play ones.
Only my play ones.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:13 pm
Aaah the wonderful sound of secret squirrels, don't tell anyone where you keep your acorns.....
all the other squirrels won't find them ...
its not like they will drive in the bush .... nope most 4x4 owners just hang in the city and take it to the cafe for latte.
yep I love folks who hide their acorns, they are great....
all the other squirrels won't find them ...
its not like they will drive in the bush .... nope most 4x4 owners just hang in the city and take it to the cafe for latte.
yep I love folks who hide their acorns, they are great....
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:21 pm
If you want to find a track, get on a forum and interact with people.
Any numpty (who shouldn't be out there in the first place) can look it up on a site like that with no discussion with anyone - might as well just buy a map and follow the lines on it.
There are some really nice places that are easily spoiled by doofusses who have no respect. When I find a place like that I only tell people who have that respect, and I wouldn't post the location somewhere it was open and searchable. Especially a sydney track. In vic there are tracks open and acceissble EVERYWHERE, but in sydney they're like hens teeth. Syd is a wheeling-unfriendly place to live, so it doesn't do to spread the few pretty spots there are with everyone.
Any numpty (who shouldn't be out there in the first place) can look it up on a site like that with no discussion with anyone - might as well just buy a map and follow the lines on it.
There are some really nice places that are easily spoiled by doofusses who have no respect. When I find a place like that I only tell people who have that respect, and I wouldn't post the location somewhere it was open and searchable. Especially a sydney track. In vic there are tracks open and acceissble EVERYWHERE, but in sydney they're like hens teeth. Syd is a wheeling-unfriendly place to live, so it doesn't do to spread the few pretty spots there are with everyone.
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 7:37 pm
Awesome.
isn't this a forum? in Canberra a while back the folks tried to get a weekend going a few times and it never happened.
So yeah, great advice... I'm already on a forum .. thats what this is I thought?
as for idiots or wankers? mate wake up ... the point of my post was simple... they WILL find your track or fav area if they drive off-road.
In Canberra they take the same approach and like locking forests thinking it will keep the wankers out...
now the gates are locked - the air crash memorial in a pine forest near the airport has been defaced and the plaque removed by said wankers. when the gates were open... this never happened as more people frequented the place.
Same as Mt Coree, the fire tower used to be open and you could camp in there (and I did many times) and the folks I knew who also camped there would report on the state and clean up the area... now it is locked down like a fortress...... my friends and I sometimes drive up there ... but don't hang around -- people still litter and so forth, but we don't do anything about it anymore (why would we? we all lost out)
By all means, don't share - but don't piss and moan when some wanker does find it and ruins it (in one of the many ways they do).
isn't this a forum? in Canberra a while back the folks tried to get a weekend going a few times and it never happened.
So yeah, great advice... I'm already on a forum .. thats what this is I thought?
as for idiots or wankers? mate wake up ... the point of my post was simple... they WILL find your track or fav area if they drive off-road.
In Canberra they take the same approach and like locking forests thinking it will keep the wankers out...
now the gates are locked - the air crash memorial in a pine forest near the airport has been defaced and the plaque removed by said wankers. when the gates were open... this never happened as more people frequented the place.
Same as Mt Coree, the fire tower used to be open and you could camp in there (and I did many times) and the folks I knew who also camped there would report on the state and clean up the area... now it is locked down like a fortress...... my friends and I sometimes drive up there ... but don't hang around -- people still litter and so forth, but we don't do anything about it anymore (why would we? we all lost out)
By all means, don't share - but don't piss and moan when some wanker does find it and ruins it (in one of the many ways they do).
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:30 pm
Hey guys,
Just a couple of quick points about www.4x4earth.com.au.
The goal of the site is to help new 4 wheel drivers find tracks that are appropriate to their vehicle and level of experience. I know the best way to learn is to join a club and or go out with some mates, but the sad reality of it is that many people go out by themselves the first couple of times. 4x4earth tries to help those people.
The site is also really useful to help non locals find a good track when they are touring.
We used to have a 'competition' level track, but we removed it, because we aren't after the 'secret squirrel' tracks. Just the common ones that all of the locals know about it.
I know Outers has a lot of hard core offroaders, and 4x4earth certainly isn't aimed at that type of driving. Although as Macca has noted, I haven't been offroading for 20 years, I think that the more people that enjoy drive offroad, the better it is for all of us. The less people who drive off road there are makes it easier for us to be marginalised.
Just my thoughts.
Cheers,
James
Just a couple of quick points about www.4x4earth.com.au.
The goal of the site is to help new 4 wheel drivers find tracks that are appropriate to their vehicle and level of experience. I know the best way to learn is to join a club and or go out with some mates, but the sad reality of it is that many people go out by themselves the first couple of times. 4x4earth tries to help those people.
The site is also really useful to help non locals find a good track when they are touring.
We used to have a 'competition' level track, but we removed it, because we aren't after the 'secret squirrel' tracks. Just the common ones that all of the locals know about it.
I know Outers has a lot of hard core offroaders, and 4x4earth certainly isn't aimed at that type of driving. Although as Macca has noted, I haven't been offroading for 20 years, I think that the more people that enjoy drive offroad, the better it is for all of us. The less people who drive off road there are makes it easier for us to be marginalised.
Just my thoughts.
Cheers,
James
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:56 pm
here we go again..........
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:05 pm
and then some.nastytroll wrote:I'm sure it was discussed at length on here.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 12:18 pm
used it a couple of times, but noticed a few of the better tracks are not on there....... funny that.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 3:24 pm
Found this on there:
METRO'S LATTE CORNER
Difficulty: medium-difficult
Track length: 5km
Track Features: Tar
This track will require a vehicle such as a RAV 4 or Cruze, lowered at least 2". 18" chrome rims are ok, although 20" is preferred. Difficult features of this track include round-a-bouts and pedestrian crossings.
METRO'S LATTE CORNER
Difficulty: medium-difficult
Track length: 5km
Track Features: Tar
This track will require a vehicle such as a RAV 4 or Cruze, lowered at least 2". 18" chrome rims are ok, although 20" is preferred. Difficult features of this track include round-a-bouts and pedestrian crossings.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:15 pm
see!!! thats definitive proof that this is a reliable site! no more flaming thanks!mike_nofx wrote:Found this on there:
METRO'S LATTE CORNER
Difficulty: medium-difficult
Track length: 5km
Track Features: Tar
This track will require a vehicle such as a RAV 4 or Cruze, lowered at least 2". 18" chrome rims are ok, although 20" is preferred. Difficult features of this track include round-a-bouts and pedestrian crossings.
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 5:35 pm
ROFLmike_nofx wrote:Found this on there:
METRO'S LATTE CORNER
Difficulty: medium-difficult
Track length: 5km
Track Features: Tar
This track will require a vehicle such as a RAV 4 or Cruze, lowered at least 2". 18" chrome rims are ok, although 20" is preferred. Difficult features of this track include round-a-bouts and pedestrian crossings.
anyway there is good reason behind not adding our best kept tracks to this data base, we dont want to see them over used, those that know of them deserve to drive on them, those that cant find them, shouldnt be looking for them!Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 7:21 pm
Hey guys,
Here is the secret web site, guaranteed to have tracks that you haven't done before. The tracks might be a little difficult for some of you, and they are a bit out of the way and fairly remote, but the view is out of this world.
Get in quick before DSE closes them all!!!
Have fun
James
Here is the secret web site, guaranteed to have tracks that you haven't done before. The tracks might be a little difficult for some of you, and they are a bit out of the way and fairly remote, but the view is out of this world.
Get in quick before DSE closes them all!!!
Have fun
James
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:19 am
BA HA HA HA!!!Patriot wrote:Hey guys,
Here is the secret web site, guaranteed to have tracks that you haven't done before. The tracks might be a little difficult for some of you, and they are a bit out of the way and fairly remote, but the view is out of this world.
Get in quick before DSE closes them all!!!
Have fun
James
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:43 am
Thats classic!!!
I might need a longer snorkel though.
I might need a longer snorkel though.
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:59 pm
good looking website. well done.
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:29 pm
cooki_monsta wrote:mike_nofx wrote: those that know of them deserve to drive on them, those that cant find them, shouldnt be looking for them!
Says it all really....
I so wish I could find a forum and friends who thought me deserving of a more manly trail, maybe they would share their tracks with me as the super tough elite grade track I use to get to the coffee shop is just getting boring; what with having to go over three median strips, my nature strip and of course fighting off the parking police for the prime spot in the urban wilderness on the sidewalk of the alfresco latte stop with which I can pull my winch in front of the girls who seem unable to stop themselves from stripping to gstrings and laying on the front of my hilux.
This isn't too bad, but it is all the Patrol blokes who want to lay on the bonnet naked that have really turned me off this track.
Maybe I should be looking for Victorian snow tracks to make sure the Patrol lovers keep their clothes on????
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:53 pm
Lux IS Good!
There there, you may wake up now.
There there, you may wake up now.
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:26 pm
I used to have this problem regularly, this is why i drive the falson 99% of the time now. I didn't mind it that much to begin with, but when that bra got caught up in my winch - thats when i called a stop to it.Luxisgood wrote:fighting off the parking police for the prime spot in the urban wilderness on the sidewalk of the alfresco latte stop with which I can pull my winch in front of the girls who seem unable to stop themselves from stripping to gstrings and laying on the front of my hilux.
Coxy
PS. I think the fancy coffee places etc are actually called eg. "The Fancy Latte Shoppe", not "shop", as its too plain and doesn't suit the blacktop cruiser type people.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:41 pm
Oh look fair dinkum here yah go, Barkley River Jeep Trk. off Mount Skene Vic.
So now could somebody open a coffee shop, sorry shoppe, so I could get a latte at Rumpff saddle.
Mmm not a bad idea!
Al.
So now could somebody open a coffee shop, sorry shoppe, so I could get a latte at Rumpff saddle.
Mmm not a bad idea!
Al.
Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:33 pm
I heard a rumour that McDonalds was looking at putting a drive-through at the peak of Son of a Bitch Tk. Very handy for those late night munchie attacks in the bush.....GUte wrote:Oh look fair dinkum here yah go, Barkley River Jeep Trk. off Mount Skene Vic.
So now could somebody open a coffee shop, sorry shoppe, so I could get a latte at Rumpff saddle.
Mmm not a bad idea!
Al.
There was also a story going around about Bunnings opening shop at the Black Bog hut - to make it quicker/easier rebuilds of the huts in fire season.
They could be just rumours though.
Coxy
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:41 am
Have they rebuilt Craigs yet? There's a spot for jam donut van at least - but I'd like to see a devenshire tea place with home made jam on the scones. They get enough tourists to actually support it I reckon.
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:37 am
Last time i went up (end of Jan i think) it was all good. Even had a nice bark mulch garden setup, and the carpark!!!!! Fcuk me dead!! I thought i'd pulled into a Kmart when i rocked up!! All fancy pants rock deviders, all flat, no pot holes, a trailer of porta potties too!!
Coxy
Coxy
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:15 pm
I thought it go burned down again?
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:24 pm
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/DSE/nrenfor.n ... ig's%20Hut
No idea. The huts up there seem to be getting burned down and rebuilt several times a year.
Bluff hut is/was one of my favourites (shame it is too close to the road). Thats the one that had 3-4 split levels, a drying room, nice big kitchen/eating room - and most important of all, a bl00dy good toilet.
Coxy
No idea. The huts up there seem to be getting burned down and rebuilt several times a year.
Bluff hut is/was one of my favourites (shame it is too close to the road). Thats the one that had 3-4 split levels, a drying room, nice big kitchen/eating room - and most important of all, a bl00dy good toilet.
Coxy
Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:32 pm
Dec 06
A bushfire has destroyed the iconic Craig's Hut in Victoria's high country, made famous by the film The Man From Snowy River.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/bus ... 12585.html
Has it been rebuilt since then? I've been stuck in NSW - they don't have highcountry up here, and their national parks are all bitumen or locked gates. The whole 4WDriving community would move states if they saw what you could freely drive/camp in within a couple of hours of the Melb.
A bushfire has destroyed the iconic Craig's Hut in Victoria's high country, made famous by the film The Man From Snowy River.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/bus ... 12585.html
Has it been rebuilt since then? I've been stuck in NSW - they don't have highcountry up here, and their national parks are all bitumen or locked gates. The whole 4WDriving community would move states if they saw what you could freely drive/camp in within a couple of hours of the Melb.