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HELP Separating Hilux CV joints

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:53 am
by Toyo Truck
I have bought a new Outer CV, but I need to get my old inner axle
out of the hilux CV joint to fit it to the NEW outer I just bought.

How the hell do you get these damn Toyota Hilux
Solid front axle CV's apart?? They are resilient little
buggers!!

It says in the workshop manual to just put in a vice
and smash it with a brass drift on the inner of the cage?
but that is gonna wreck the cage cause I can't find a brass drift
to save me. NO ONE has got one in Sydney!!
so I have been using other less harsh implements...
but the damn inner axle will not come out of the CV at all.

HELP...otherwise I can't go wheeling this weekend.
I got the hub rebuild kit and all ready to go!!!
There must be an easy way to do this??

Cheers,
Bart

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:22 pm
by bigcam
find something sold with a gap in it just big enough to get the axle through. (a vice or similar. then holding onto the axle slide the axle through the hole so it stops on the CV. eventually the cv will pop off the axle, you have to hit it bloody hard though to compress the cir clip inside..

oh yeah.. good luck!

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 1:45 pm
by shorty_f0rty
or use a BFH and hold onto the inner axel.. the wail on the CV bell HARD.

or the method i prefer.. get a bit of steel tube that will fit the inner axel inside.. hold the tube in one hand, insert the inner axel from the top and let it drop a few times.. this should be enough to free it from the CV..


some have also suggested using the tube crossmember in a chassis to do this but you need something to fish out the inner axel once it comes off.. this isn't going to work if your tube crossmember is bent though (there is one on the 40 that goes thru both sides of the chassis just under the seats.. not sure if you'll have the same thing on a lux..

the next problem you'll face will be getting the circlip on with the new CV and inner axel.. first time i rebuilt my front end this is what took the most time for me..

good luck!

Re: HELP Separating Hilux CV joints

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 3:35 pm
by v6hilux
Toyo Truck wrote:NO ONE has got one in Sydney!!
Scrap metal yard? The "Steel store" out north of Blacktown. It's just a brass rod isn't it. Just tell them what size diameter you need?

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:48 pm
by Toyo Truck
Thanks for the pointers guys...will try the hole in the chassis,
failing that, I'll get some steel, failing that, I BEAT IT WITH BFH!!

About the brass drift (which it says to use in the manual)
I dunno, I have never been able to find a brass drift to see what it is?
Seem to be one of those "old skool" tools that everyone forgot about.

Does anyone even use brass drifts anymore?? OR just soft faced
hammers? What do you use to beat on stuff, without marring or breaking
it?? What do u use to soften the blows?

Cheers,
Bart

PS...Thanks for the call troy..you are full of good CV changing info!!

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:54 pm
by smithie
I recently used a block of aluminium instead of a brass drift as I also found it difficult to buy one.. the aluminium was soft enough not to damaged the studs i was banging on (to get cone washers out) and can be got pretty easy out of the scrap bin at most steel joints..

just a few cents from me anyway..

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:59 pm
by phippsy
you can do away with the inner circlip if you want.

on the diff end of the axle, you will see where the wear mark of the diff on the axle, get a piece of plate or something, line it up with the mark and do a quick small weld to fill a couple of the splines on the axle using the plate as a guide to not fill too much spline.

When you're happy with the spot of weld, it should be easy to snap of the piece of plate and I used a hand file to file the spot of weld smooth to the top of the edges of the spline. This will stop the axle running to far into the diff.

Did this to my lux a few years ago and never had a problem.

Found a link

http://4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Axl ... ml#Martack

Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:13 pm
by RAY185
Brass Drift:
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Or buy a set from here:

http://www.justtools.com.au/prod2222.htm

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:19 pm
by dumbdunce
I have a bit of pipe about 3" diamter and just longer than the long side inner axle. stand the pipe on its end on a wood block, and drop the axle down into the pipe. 9/10 times the weight of the axle dropping in the pipe and coming to a sudden stop is enough to drop it out, and because the force is distributed (unlike belting it in one spot with a drift), most of the time the inner C clip does not break.

Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 5:55 pm
by sloshy
Hold the axle in one hand and a couple of decent hits with a brass headed hammer with ya other hand, but if the cv's buggered just use a lump hammer but make sure you have safety glasses on.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 8:05 am
by killalux
the tube crossmember just above the rear wheels on the hilux works quite well, just make sure there is nothing on the other side that the axle could smash into as it flies out.