Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Hi
I'm building up a GQ ute to compete in winch challenge style events and am up to the roll cage part .
Just after some ideas on how people are doing cages in these small cabs ,
I want to be able to compete in most events so would have to comply with ccda etc , so do i need a 6 point or 2x 4 point cages ?
I have seen a few people running the rear stays through the back window and or rear wall .
Any pics would be helpful .
And also who does this sort of work in the Sydney area ?

thanks micka1

Yeah, I'm the same position also mate.

Not really sure what to do, because an internal cage is attached to the body and an external cage which will be the part above the tray (main hoop & back stays) are attached to the chassis, joining the too wouldn't be ideal.

From the CCDA rule book:

5.6 RECOMMENDED DESIGNS
5.6.1 CAB CHASSIS VEHICLES
Due to space considerations in the cabin of cab chassis vehicles either a flexible joint shall be
used through rear of cab bulkhead or two separate roll cages shall be constructed.
The main rollbar in the cabin shall be within 150mm of the occupants’ heads but shall not
overhang the occupants. If there is insufficient room within the cabin the two diagonal cross braces
may be within the main roll bar to the rear of the cab.

Sounds easy enough

More good Info here, with diagrams. Hope it helps.

http://www.ccda4wd.com.au/images/Rollov ... 060428.pdf

This thread needs pictures.

thanks gorilla for that , read through the ccda page .
I've decided i will go with a 4 point internal mounted cage and run the rear 2 stays out of the rear window area to the chassis and have these stays removable .
Just interested to know how people mount these arms as the have to have a bush on one of the mounts .

use a trailing arm bush at the flex point.

turps wrote:use a trailing arm bush at the flex point.

Thats a good idea! Cheers

Thats a good idea with the bush at the flex point , have seen done this before .
Interested in weather roll cages have to be engineered for when doing comp use or what the go is with them ?
Can i build it myself or should i get one built ? If so who in sydney does them ?
thanks

micka1 wrote:Thats a good idea with the bush at the flex point , have seen done this before .
Interested in weather roll cages have to be engineered for when doing comp use or what the go is with them ?
Can i build it myself or should i get one built ? If so who in sydney does them ?
thanks

Speak to Rod Andrews as he was doing cages that would 100% legal.
companany is Rod Andrews Chassis i think from memory, he does alot of drag car work. He is in sydney

I have a mate that does roll cages in st andrews in western syd and thats all he does for a living he does all sorts like extending wheel bases and roll cages, trailing arms and every thing else. He has built full tube chassis drag cars so he knows what he is doing. He just finished a mates car just before it went into tuff truck 08. If you want to have a chat to him just pm me and ill ask if he has time to look at your car and price exactlly what you want or give you a rough price on it but he wont do it if you dont want to cut corners to save money he does every thing right to the rules no matter if ccda, andra, or anyone else..........

hope i could help........

he wont do it if you dont want to cut corners to save money oops i ment if you want to cut corners not if you dont want to cut corners

Sorry about that

hey brettsgq i am not interested in cutting corners when it comes to a roll cage .
Check my build up in members , i try to do everything properly .

I have one guy to speak to next week around the corner from me will see how i go after that, only problem is that the car is only half built so not really easily transported to show somebody at the moment . Thought that it is probably the best time to get the cage put in now before i put the rest of the truck together .

thanks also turbo gu , will consult this guy first then speak to a few more people , will keep posted on progress ..

micka

micka1 wrote: Interested in weather roll cages have to be engineered for when doing comp use or what the go is with them ?
Can i build it myself or should i get one built ? If so who in sydney does them ?
thanks

My engineer wont cert my (proposed) internal cage in a gq ute cab in NSW, but he will cert for one to be regod in Vic. If you are in NSW it depends on where you get your blue/pink slips done i spose...
trucks dont need to be engineered to compete, just registered (except for a handful .i.e cliffhanger/ cooma)

Build it yourself according to ccda spec that way you cant "cut corners". You can however 'cut spending' by doing it yourself

I am doing 2x 4 points. The idea is that the main hoop on the rear 4 point is slightly larger than the cab to protect from light rolls andf flops. Internal 4point with stays out the rear bulkhead is lighter, cooler and sexier but I want my ute to last as long as possible without needing to re-shell it